[Abernathy]

Summat and nowt. AI-generated planning objections are no more likely to succeed than conventional ones. Why should they be?

[Tubby Isaacs]

The Guardian is limbering up for a big stance against the planning bill, as part of its shift to supporting the Lib Dems and the Greens.

[Andy McDandy]

You could use it to flood the system, overload it in denial of service style.

As for these 2 utter Kents, given many mosques don't massively alter the outside of their buildings (mainly to avoid drawing the attention of fucknuckles like we have here), I'm guessing their objections aren't around their light being blocked.

[Boiler]

Oh god.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... perts-warn

The government’s plan to use artificial intelligence to accelerate planning for new homes may be about to hit an unexpected roadblock: AI-powered nimbyism.

A new service called Objector is offering “policy-backed objections in minutes” to people who are upset about planning applications near their homes.

It uses generative AI to scan planning applications and check for grounds for objection, ranking these as “high”, “medium” or “low” impact. It then automatically creates objection letters, AI-written speeches to deliver to the planning committees, and even AI-generated videos to “influence councillors”.

Kent residents Hannah and Paul George designed the system after estimating they spent hundreds of hours attempting to navigate the planning process when they opposed plans to convert a building near their home into a mosque.

I'm sure that their objections were completely reasonable and motivated by not wanting a load of muslims near their house.

It happened near where a friend lives in Bromley. The main objection wasn't the people, but the surrounding residential streets getting clogged up with the worshipper's parked vehicles.

[davidjay]

No offence to your friend, but I'm getting strong "Don't mind moderate Muslims" vibes there.

[The Weeping Angel]

You could use it to flood the system, overload it in denial of service style.

As for these 2 utter Kents, given many mosques don't massively alter the outside of their buildings (mainly to avoid drawing the attention of fucknuckles like we have here), I'm guessing their objections aren't around their light being blocked.

That's pretty much my fear as well. Flood the system so nothing gets built. The guardian will probably give them a column,

[Boiler]

No offence to your friend, but I'm getting strong "Don't mind moderate Muslims" vibes there.

Oh, he didn't give a tinker's cuss about it. It was his neighbours who raised the objections and I do have to say, negotiating the roads near both where he lived and said mosque was a pretty good test of one's driving skills around the time of Friday prayers. One set of neighbours did actually sell up and move.

[satnav]

The Mail has today provided us with a picture of what Nimbies look like.



Residents' fury over plans to build 20,000 new homes on countryside that inspired Jane Austen

[Tubby Isaacs]

Alex Perry, 55, who has lived in Neatham for 11 years, says the plans would ruin his back garden views of the rolling chalk downs.

The dad-of-three said: 'They are going to destroy some of the most beautiful countryside in southern England.

'There has been no attempt to do any of the accompanying infrastructure. We have already got sewage spills and month long waits just to get an appointment at doctors' surgeries.

'It is the land that informed Jane Austen who she was. If you read her books, it is full of descriptions of this landscape.

'This land is our identity. It is the essence of who we are, and they are planning to concrete it. That is why people are so upset.'

Alas, no space to tell us what Mr Perry does for a living. What's the betting it's not something closely connected to the land? Was his house there when Jane Austen was about?

A nice sighting of "they haven't put any infrastructure in" too. That wouldn't make a lot of sense seeing there's no immediate prospect of new houses. Like you'd expect a Post Office and Primary School to be sat there waiting or something.

I'm calling nonsense on the "takes a month to get a doctor's appointment too". I bet you can fill in a triage form every morning, and in most cases get seen or phoned back.

[kreuzberger]

You paid thru'pence for your Dale, Trossach, or Cotswold, and your kids want somewhere to live? Down with that sort of thing!

[Killer Whale]

Pull the ladder up behind you, you old cunts.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Where does he think the people in these new houses will come from? Outer Space? They're in the country now, except in less convenient, smaller and shittier houses, with the same issues around doctors appointments. Perhaps we could provide these people with somewhere better for them, and adjust GP provision accordingly? Who knows, some of them might have kids, who could make your typical "lovely village school" less of a public money pit.

[Youngian]

Among the housing experts coming up on my YouTube feed with totally different narratives was a guy predicting a housing surplus and prices tumbling as babyboomers pass away. Superficially logical.

[Youngian]

You need a denser population in order to have these things. And we know how rural villagers feel about new house building so tough tits.

[Malcolm Armsteen]

Fuck him.

[Watchman]

Who’s your neighbours Jeremy, who’s house do you want to be invited to for dinner.?

[Yug]

Fuck off Clarkson. Village shops close because people who move into the village drive 20 miles to the nearest Tesco to do their shopping, and only use the village shop a couple of times a year when they've run out of milk or forgot to get bread in Tesco. They don't use the shop, the owner loses money and closes. They then moan like fuck about the shop closing down when it's their fault it's closing.

This happened in four villages local to Torytown in the space of 5 years. Those villages nearly doubled in size yet the incomers didn't use the local facilities. One of the four even lost it's pub because nobody was using it. The wankers still moaned about it closing though.

The tiny village I live in now has a shop and a pub. Both are thriving - because people use them.

The moral of this story is:

If there's a shop and/or pub when you move in, use it. Or it won't be there for long.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Yeah, it's bollocks, judging by where I live. A large village of 2,600, something like that. Lots happening, because there are people locally who make it happen, and enough people use the local shop, post office, cafe and pub. That, rather. than the nebulous concept of "soul" is what matters.

It's a well off area, but I'm sure lots of Clarkson's villages are too.