[Tubby Isaacs]

Farage.

If our biggest critic is Labour activist Dan Neidle – and he is a tax expert, he is he’s good at it – if our biggest critic says that Richard Tice has not evaded or avoided tax, has paid the full amount, and actually, maybe even a little bit more the full amount, then I’m satisfied with that

This isn't all false but it's misleading, The allegation is that Tice underpaid, that the rules were well understood in the industry, and that HMRC may well want extra tax and an interest penalty because it's at best careless. Farage is playing on a misunderstanding of how tax compliance works. There's a considerable area between paying the right amount and "off to jail with you", which is not OK.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Latest from Dan The Man.

Richard Tice isn’t denying that Quidnet REIT, his property company, failed to pay around £120,000 of tax when it paid dividends to Mr Tice and his offshore trust. He says it doesn’t matter, because he paid tax in full. That’s wrong: Quidnet’s failure to withhold REIT tax was unlawful, and the £120,000 remains due.

But perhaps more importantly, Mr Tice is failing to answer two critical questions. Did his offshore trust pay any tax on the dividends? And did he and his trust pay tax at the correct rate?

[AOB]

Anything to do with MPs not paying taxes is white noise to the voter. Celebs get it easy too. People laugh along with that supercilious ventriloquist's dummy Jimmy Carr joking about his tax evasion. If you had a benefit claimant accused of falsely claiming £120k however, woe betide them, the sideways and down punches start after the tabloids light the blue touch paper.

[Tubby Isaacs]

I think the public hates this stuff. Zahawi and Rayner got clobbered. Jimmy Carr was public enemy number one until he withdrew from the scheme.

Zahawi had 30% extra tax added, hardly getting it easy. HMRC does want to collect tax from rich people, and mostly politicians do too because it's money they don't have to get off their base.

Tice's voters may or may not react to this, lots won't have any idea it's happening. That's one of the things that Trump and Farage have mastered- getting votes from people who think everything's shit but don't follow politics enough to know that they don't support lots of their policies.

[Boiler]

People laugh along with that supercilious ventriloquist's dummy Jimmy Carr joking about his tax evasion.

If I never hear that fucking guffaw of his again...

[Youngian]

Tory voters who don't think Nigel's racist enough sounds like a very niche demographic to target. Or is Nigel going gung-ho for the green vote? Reversing the 'Boriswave' while birthrates fall will result in depopulation. A very ecologically sound policy.

[davidjay]

Someone please give me a modern history lesson - why did Johnson let so many immigrants arrive?

[mattomac]

Maybe he should ask those who were in Johnson's cabinet and who supported him... Like

Nadhim Zahawi,
Jake Berry,
Andrea Jenkyns,
Robert Jenrick
Suella Braverman

And so on

[Youngian]

No 'Starmer wave' though is there.
One of Reeves's economic advisors whose name escapes me takes the view that overseas labour demand falls when the value of low paid labour goes. Which it has under labour and that's correlated with a fall in immigration.
Its not an argument that Lib Dems and Tories in the Remain campaign were interested in making while Corbyn couldn't be arsed to. Did meet a new Labour MP at a Labour Remain relaunch (that Tom Watson organised when Corbyn fucked off to Portugal) who thought that was spot on, Keir Starmer.

[Bones McCoy]

Talking about the 4th most recent PM's work in the present tense is odd.

[Tubby Isaacs]

They want to kick them out now, so it is kind of in the present tense for them.

[Youngian]

It was him, sir. He did it not me!

[Tubby Isaacs]

There's a fair bit of Covid catch up, plus Ukraine and Honk Kong, but even so the figures were very high. I'd argue in terms of our ability to build houses, that it was too high. But the number just comes down in future years. What's the problem?

I do accept that there was a political problem with politicians running on immigration falling then massively raising it, which was one of Sir Keir justified points in that shit speech.