By Oboogie
#111615
Hopefully, but I'd be happier if it was from a polling company with a better track record ie YouGov or IPSO. But fingers crossed.
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By Abernathy
#111623
I watched the special Question Time from Makerfield last night. Unexpectedly, the Reform candidate made a fair fist of pretending to be calm, reasonable, and rational, with his best weddings suit on, but his attempt to play down his sexism and mysogyny fell flat - certainly if the angry faces of the many women in the Makerfield audience (much shaking of heads in evidence) were any measure. He was also completely skewered by the Green candidate, who invited him to apologise directly to Carol Vorderman , which he declined to do. I think it’s fair to say that he wasn’t convincing anybody.

Burnham kept to his usual script. Localism the success of Greater Manchester he wants to bring to the UK nationally. Still dancing around the question of whether he intends to challenge Sir Keir for the Labour leadership, no doubt for fear of appearing complacent about winning in the by-election, though he gave a sort of direct answer, saying he wanted to seek to represent Makerfield “at the highest level” and claiming bizarrely -and wrongly - that a Labour leadership challenge had already been triggered by Wes Streeting.

Of the others, the Tory was weirdly likeable, I thought. The Green lass quite bolshy and belligerent, but did well to (metaphorically) twist the Reform bloke’s scrotum. The Lib Dem was deeply unimpressive, and irrelevant. Shamefully, Lord Binface was not mentioned.
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By Boiler
#111628
Localism the success of Greater Manchester he wants to bring to the UK nationally.
Why is it that when I hear phrases like that, I get flashbacks to "Radio Active, your national local radio station"? (Which of course, we now have)

I'm surprised no-one has suggested anarcho-syndicalism on a national scale yet. Or indeed, the kibbutz model for all the ageing hippies.
By mattomac
#111669
Oboogie wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2026 12:55 am Hopefully, but I'd be happier if it was from a polling company with a better track record ie YouGov or IPSO. But fingers crossed.
To be fair Survation haven't been bad for about 8 years now, they were really ropey when they came in but they are ones I would take on face value, also they've done two now which is better than one off ones that say "Findoutnow" would do.

Oddly they haven't done one which does make me wonder.
By Oboogie
#111675
mattomac wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2026 5:36 pm
Oboogie wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2026 12:55 am Hopefully, but I'd be happier if it was from a polling company with a better track record ie YouGov or IPSO. But fingers crossed.
To be fair Survation haven't been bad for about 8 years now, they were really ropey when they came in but they are ones I would take on face value, also they've done two now which is better than one off ones that say "Findoutnow" would do.

Oddly they haven't done one which does make me wonder.
Survation are far from the worst (that would be Findoutnow, who aren't even trying) but YouGov have the most consistently accurate track record.
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By Boiler
#112082
Ant Middleton backs Reform UK’s Robert Kenyon in Makerfield byelection

Middleton was convicted in 2013 of the unlawful wounding of a police officer and common assault on another outside a nightclub. He was banned in 2025 from being a company director, after his company failed to pay more than £1m in tax. He had parted ways with Channel 4 in 2021 after controversial comments on the coronavirus pandemic and Black Lives Matter.

Restore Britain, the hard-right party set up by former Reform MP Rupert Lowe after he and Nigel Farage fell out, is widely expected to come third in the Makerfield election.

The party’s performance could cost Reform the seat, according to a leaked poll, which was circulated internally among Labour staffers and published by the i newspaper. It put Lowe’s party on 13% of the vote, with Reform on 24% and Labour on 35%.
By satnav
#112095
I'm a bit hacked off with all the Reform councillors who are all over social media declaring that they are spending the weekend canvassing in Makerfield. I always thought that local councillors dedicated at least some part of the weekend holding surgeries for the residents of their wards. Reform councillors are clearly not to bothered about this part of being a local councillor.
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By Abernathy
#112097
Come on. You just know those cunts know fuck all about being a councillor, and want to do the work it entails even less.
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By Samanfur
#112100
One of the councillors who got voted out here has the exact same people who told him to his face that they wouldn't vote Labour because of Starmer knocking on his door expecting that he still has all of the clearance to solve their problems, because the silence from the Reform councillor who replaced him has been deafening.

He's not enjoying letting them down, but they have nobody to blame but themselves.
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By satnav
#112101
The Mail on Sunday are on full attack mode tonight going after Restore. This seems a bit odd from the Mail. Reform winning the seat will be pretty irrelevant but a Labour win would see major turmoil for Labour. Is the Mail really worried about Burnham becoming the next Labour leader?
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