[mattomac]

And the previous one was Atlee.

Wouldn’t it be Wilson in 70?

Wilson later stepped down pre-election.

I know but he didn’t in 1970.

[Boiler]

IIRC Wilson stepped down in 1976 for Jim Callaghan.

[Malcolm Armsteen]

From an ex-pupil (member of FBU)

It's a national embarrassment that via billionaire funded disinformation channels, a massively biased press and with a whole load of AI using social media 'activists' and 'citizen journalists' (whatever that means) of both far left and far right we are sending the message that if you bully someone enough you win. That's what I see here today.
Great lesson for our kids - lie about people, obfuscate and bully to win in life.
I think Starmer made some catastrophic mistakes early on and his messaging and vision didn't cut through the noise generated but this feels like letting bullies win and no matter your feelings about Starmers leadership that can't be right.

Can't argue with any of that.

[Boiler]

Seems fair to me... depressing, innit?

More to the point: how the hell do you combat it? The media landscape is very different to a quarter of a century ago - now you have the Wild West of unregulated social networks to contend with on top of the legacy media.

[Andy McDandy]

I suspect it's one of those genies you can never put back in the bottle, partly because any attempts at self-restraint are professional suicide. Fact is, enough people want the shit, and it's cheaper than truffles.

[Boiler]

Don Henley is now in my head.