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By Tubby Isaacs
#115311
Don't know if anyone else has been following the Professor Jason Arday story, but he's resigned from his professorship after Cambridge announced they were investigating him. The Guardian deserve a lot of credit here, because they found him to be (aside from the plagiarism allegations) to be a bullshitter.

https://www.theguardian.com/education/n ... ason-arday

The Guardian's instincts must have been to go full in behind Arday, because the people who'd led the public assault on him were deeply unpleasant people. Jolyon Maugham, Zack Polanski and a bunch of Labour MPs did exactly that, and now have egg on their face. But as the article by Lanre Bakare makes clear, so much was at stake here, academically and politically. Forcing a quick resignation is the best thing that could have happened.
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By The Weeping Angel
#115315
I have been following this case; being on Bluesky does have its advantages from time to time. Anyway, here is part of his resignation statement.



Or maybe he failed them by being a serial liar.
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By Watchman
#115329
Needless to say, Goodwin is absolutely creaming himself
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By Tubby Isaacs
#115333
Feed people leg stump half volleys like this and they put them away for boundaries.

At least this was resolved before there was much more egg on faces. Clive Lewis, John McDonnell and all the rest won’t care about the woman whose work was plagiarised while Arday got his Cambridge earner.
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By Oboogie
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Tubby Isaacs wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2026 9:11 pm The Guardian's instincts must have been to go full in behind Arday, because the people who'd led the public assault on him were deeply unpleasant people. Jolyon Maugham, Zack Polanski and a bunch of Labour MPs did exactly that, and now have egg on their face.
A clear example of what James O'Brien calls footballafication: "a black academic must be the good guy/victim so we must all support him unequivocally to demonstrate what good allies we are".
The lesson is a clear and simple one, not all thieves and bullshitters are white.
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By Boiler
#115356
My niece had the work she'd done for her doctorate plagiarised. Needless to say, she's still pretty sore about it even now.
By davidjay
#115376
Boiler wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2026 2:19 pm My niece had the work she'd done for her doctorate plagiarised. Needless to say, she's still pretty sore about it even now.
I had to watch as a lot of my work was published weekly under their name by someone with better lawyers than I could afford.
By Oboogie
#115377
davidjay wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2026 8:10 pm
Boiler wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2026 2:19 pm My niece had the work she'd done for her doctorate plagiarised. Needless to say, she's still pretty sore about it even now.
I had to watch as a lot of my work was published weekly under their name by someone with better lawyers than I could afford.
I wrote about 60% of a BTEC course and watched as my boss (who'd not written a word) got her name put on it, no credit to myself or the other authors.
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By kreuzberger
#115384
Oboogie wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2026 11:25 am
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2026 9:11 pm The Guardian's instincts must have been to go full in behind Arday, because the people who'd led the public assault on him were deeply unpleasant people. Jolyon Maugham, Zack Polanski and a bunch of Labour MPs did exactly that, and now have egg on their face.
A clear example of what James O'Brien calls footballafication: "a black academic must be the good guy/victim so we must all support him unequivocally to demonstrate what good allies we are".
The lesson is a clear and simple one, not all thieves and bullshitters are white.
"Footballafication" suggests a level-playing field and the same rules applying to everyone.

Even if he has cut a few corners - which is far from set in concrete - it is a bit silly to consider Arday to have had the same blessed privileged background as yer common or garden Cambridge Don.

He can cure cancer and the common cold, or dance on Mars but he is Black. Of course, the establishment shun him.

(Just as an aside; the serried ranks of the news media have repeatedly cited Arday as being a professor. Of what? We are not told. They are not presuming that we even care, rather that we should all automatically go along with the Oxbridge narrative that "some uppity coon" is beyond his station.)

For the avoidance of doubt; I am heart-broken.
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By The Weeping Angel
#115385
He did cut corners. Also, before you feel too sorry, please remember he had a journalist arrested because they dared to ask questions about his many claims
By Oboogie
#115386
kreuzberger wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2026 8:53 pm
Oboogie wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2026 11:25 am
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2026 9:11 pm The Guardian's instincts must have been to go full in behind Arday, because the people who'd led the public assault on him were deeply unpleasant people. Jolyon Maugham, Zack Polanski and a bunch of Labour MPs did exactly that, and now have egg on their face.
A clear example of what James O'Brien calls footballafication: "a black academic must be the good guy/victim so we must all support him unequivocally to demonstrate what good allies we are".
The lesson is a clear and simple one, not all thieves and bullshitters are white.
"Footballafication" suggests a level-playing field and the same rules applying to everyone.

Even if he has cut a few corners - which is far from set in concrete - it is a bit silly to consider Arday to have had the same blessed privileged background as yer common or garden Cambridge Don.

He can cure cancer and the common cold, or dance on Mars but he is Black. Of course, the establishment shun him.

(Just as an aside; the serried ranks of the news media have repeatedly cited Arday as being a professor. Of what? We are not told. They are not presuming that we even care, rather that we should all automatically go along with the Oxbridge narrative that "some uppity coon" is beyond his station.)

For the avoidance of doubt; I am heart-broken.
"Footballafication" in the sense James O'Brien uses it does not mean a level playing field or anything like it. It instead refers to when we allow our biases to override the evidence presented to us.
In this case that means the racists will certainly assume the "uppity coon" you describe but equally, progressives will assume persecution of an innocent man because he's black.
Assumption is the mother of all fuck-ups.
Wiser heads look at the evidence before reaching a verdict.
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By The Weeping Angel
#115388
And by cutting corners, I mean plagiarising other people's work. Now I'm going out on a limb here, but that's a bad thing.
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By kreuzberger
#115390
Wider heads? It looks like the racists have claimed a scalp. They'll be dining out on their rare victory for years to come.

But they will still be racist pathogens.
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By The Weeping Angel
#115392
kreuzberger wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2026 9:39 pm Wider heads? It looks like the racists have claimed a scalp. They'll be dining out on their rare victory for years to come.

But they will still be racist pathogens.
Jason Arday will still be a plagiarist and a serial liar.
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By kreuzberger
#115393
The Weeping Angel wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2026 9:20 pm And by cutting corners, I mean plagiarising other people's work. Now I'm going out on a limb here, but that's a bad thing.
Building upon previous work and developing that understanding is quite normal.

Racists might find it difficult to process but even Black people can do that.
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By The Weeping Angel
#115395
kreuzberger wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2026 9:51 pm
The Weeping Angel wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2026 9:20 pm And by cutting corners, I mean plagiarising other people's work. Now I'm going out on a limb here, but that's a bad thing.
Building upon previous work and developing that understanding is quite normal.

Racists might find it difficult to process but even Black people can do that.
Except he didn't do that; he commited plagarism he passed off other people's work as his own without acknowledging that. That's what plagiarism is. Have you read anything about this case at all? I work in a university, and we have had cases of students who have been accused of plagiarism.
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By Oboogie
#115396
kreuzberger wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2026 9:39 pm Wider heads? It looks like the racists have claimed a scalp. They'll be dining out on their rare victory for years to come.

But they will still be racist pathogens.
The racists will certainly be dining out on this story for years to come and they'll also be using this case to smear every black academic in the land but that's not the journalists fault.

Have you read the Guardian article and the claims Arday has made?
https://www.theguardian.com/education/n ... ason-arday
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By Oboogie
#115397
kreuzberger wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2026 9:51 pm
The Weeping Angel wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2026 9:20 pm And by cutting corners, I mean plagiarising other people's work. Now I'm going out on a limb here, but that's a bad thing.
Building upon previous work and developing that understanding is quite normal.
It is, but isn't but that isn't what plagiarism means, see link below.
https://www.ox.ac.uk/students/academic/ ... plagiarism
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