[Yug]

"Winning the argument" is more important than winning the election.

What these twats don't seem to understand is: by not getting enough votes in the right places to win the election they have actually lost the argument.

One of the definitions of winning is 'coming out on top'. Having enough MPs to be the Party of Opposition (or worse in the case of the Greens with their count-on-your-fingers number of MPs) cannot be described as 'coming out on top' and certainly isn't in the same building as 'winning'.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Burnham talking about cleaning up very large toxic waste dumps today. There's one in Makerfield, which was an issue in the by-election. Starmer had announced a similar clean up of some other sites, don't know how those progressed.

These are an enormous issue which project a sense of government not caring and being incompetent, so good to focus on it. They seem to be too large for local authorities to cope with, so central government has to do it. Waste on private land is a massive issue in lots of places. Obviously, it's the landowner's responsibility but surely there's some scope for government/council removing it when it's incredibly unhealthy for people living all around it? Jaywick in Clacton has tons of these dumps on derelict properties right by occupied properties. Does there not come a point where they accept that the (very absent) landowner isn't going to remove it.

[soulboy]

Don't you mean (very absent) MP?

If only the good residents of Jaywick had someone to fight their corner.