[Watchman]

A situation that one may have to keep an eye on

Swedish election: far right makes gains but overall result on knife-edge
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... SApp_Other

[Arrowhead]

A situation that one may have to keep an eye on

Swedish election: far right makes gains but overall result on knife-edge
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... SApp_Other

Looks like the rest of the votes are due to be counted tomorrow (Wednesday). Incredible to think that overseas votes could ultimately swing it.

[Bones McCoy]

A situation that one may have to keep an eye on

Swedish election: far right makes gains but overall result on knife-edge
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... SApp_Other

Looks like the rest of the votes are due to be counted tomorrow (Wednesday). Incredible to think that overseas votes could ultimately swing it.

Another potential "Stolen Election" myth.

We wuz winning and then they counted all the Libs votes.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Perception among many in Sweden is that it all went to shit after Syrian refugees were admitted. But the murder rate (which I always take as the best indicator of violent crime) doesn't really bear that out. Refugees, as I understand it, surged in 2015. That's the year that the murder rate started rising, but it's surely too soon for the Syrians to have had that big an effect. Since then, it's not changed very much at all. Though doubtless the Sweden Democrats have done very well out of Syrian refugees.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Well, we've got a few more years of data now. The Syrian refugees must surely have turned Sweden into Detroit by now, right? Um, no. Perhaps an outlier, but murder rate now lower than all but one year since 1969.

Where's that Peter Sweden guy? Maybe he's moved to the US where he's doing a tour of the states with worse murder rates. Which is all of them. Even Maine, with the oldest US population, and being very rural has a murder rate over twice as high.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Election results coming in. The exit poll was very promising. Unfortunately Sweden doesn't seem to be very good at exit polls.

So the wait goes on.

[Tubby Isaacs]

The (left-centre) opposition are now 3 seats up, but still lots of votes to be counted.

The Sweden Democrats did worse than expected. The Swedish Tories have done some pretty hard nosed stuff on immigration and look like they've lost power, but in terms of keeping the far right out of power, it may have worked. I think there's been too much commentary that just sees Kipper voters as an insatiable block.

[mattomac]

It’s the idea everywhere is shifting one way… it’s been doing that now for 15 years and in that time things have shifted one way and then another.