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By Tubby Isaacs
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mattomac wrote: Thu May 05, 2022 7:07 pm

I would say that’s far too high, you have to remember places like Liverpool are electing, Labour were 95% control there, they will drop a few tonight I feel but the vote will hold up for it not to be too bad.
Well, take off London from that estimate (I'll go with the Britain Elects estimate of 63 gains in London). That leaves 77 for the rest of the country. That sounds like a lot on the back of 2018, but I note that there are some very big unitary councils up.

Somerset has 110 seats, double the number of existing seats. So Labour don't have to flip other parties' seats to increase their total. Another 90 in North Yorkshire, up from 72. The two Cumbria unitaries have 111 between them (up from 84).

And I think these were last held in 2017, when Labour were floundering, and the Tories were doing so well they tried to win the general election without a proper manifesto. I think Labour ought to put a lot of seats on in these 3.

So what does that leave for the rest of England? Maybe 40? That sounds a bit high. But I dont see how Labour lose seats in England (outside London).

I've no idea why Somerset has 110 seats and North Yorks 90, mind.
By davidjay
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mattomac wrote: Thu May 05, 2022 8:45 pm Scrap Liverpool as they aren’t holding any (Probably a good thing).

Seems some nerves in Croydon (not heard directly but that’s a journalist) but Barnet seems to be good and I’ve heard some good news about turnout in Wandsworth.
I'd be amazed if we do anything better than poorly in Croydon.
By MisterMuncher
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My manner of dress was insulted by an Aontú representative on my way to vote this morning. I mean, I wouldn't vote for those cunts with a gun to my head in any case, but it's good to see they're doing everything they can to make sure no one does.
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By Arrowhead
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The Tory press will probably spin this as "Labour can only win nowadays in woke metropolitan Remainer enclaves", or some such gubbins........
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By Tubby Isaacs
#25143
Lots of Sunderland results coming in. Slight Lab-Con swing, but Labour not far from the 2018 position, and much better than the 2019 and 2021 results. One strange looking Lab seat lost to Lib Dems on a massive swing. This actually doesn't look bad overall though.

Small Lab-Con swing in Basildon too, but both parties defending their seats. Again, that's OK.

Not many other results coming in.
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By Tubby Isaacs
#25144
On the evidence so far, Labour will lose some non-London English seats in the boroughs. County unitaries might just about balance it out.
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By Tubby Isaacs
#25146
Lib Dems have got another Sunderland seat, this time off the Tories. I wouldn't have thought Sunderland was obvious Lib Dem territory unless they're getting the dustbin vote back.
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By Tubby Isaacs
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If the Lib Dems pick up seats from both parties in Sunderland, I reckon they could do very well in Somerset, North Yorkshire and some of the other Tory boroughs up. Maybe Labour won't gain seats in those big unitaries.
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By Tubby Isaacs
#25150
Labour holds Sunderland

Archie Bland
In Sunderland, there were real fears for Labour that they could lose overall control of the local council for the first time since its foundation in 1974 - a result that would have been a hammer blow for Keir Starmer.

But in the end, the party retained control comfortably, with the only seats changing hands so far going to the Lib Dems - one from the Conservatives, one from Labour.

Labour’s Phil Tye, who increased his majority in Silksworth, put his victory down to people’s fears over the cost of living.
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