:laughing: 66.7 % :poo: 33.3 %
By Youngian
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Miriam doesn't solve this contradiction in her article as she claims but points out the infinite exponential increase in the immigration population isn't sustainable. But the native population doing same is for some unexplained reason (see screen shot below for Tweet content)
https://x.com/miriam_cates/status/1917592428850340087?t=SPXge1c-TtDJRuwmW_UQjw&s=19

If Ms Cates can learn anything from Paul Erlich it is that human beings are innovative and are able to adjust to new paradigms. So don't panic about depopulation.
Yet even if mass immigration has been a palliative, it is not a solution. First-generation immigrants often have more children than native Brits, but then fertility rates quickly decline. Thus, even more people must be imported to prop up the workforce and pay for pensions and welfare, and mass immigration becomes a giant Ponzi scheme.

Another reason the birth rate crisis is ignored is the lingering myth of overpopulation. In 1968, the publication of Paul Erlich’s book The Population Bomb steeped the West in Malthusian pessimism, popularising the belief that the Earth cannot sustain more people. https://conservativehome.com/2025/04/30/miriam-cates-britain-needs-more-babies-and-the-time-to-start-doing-something-about-it-is-now/
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By Tubby Isaacs
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The main way that government deal with ageing populations is higher taxes, with pensions and healthcare spending growing. Nobody would mistake Rishi Sunak for a big state spender, but the demographic pressures make the overall figures look like Harold Wilson 1974 leftism, except with far fewer council houses and soldiers. I don't see Kemi embracing higher taxes as a solution.
By Youngian
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Tried to ask Blue Labour scourge of immigrants Jonathan Hinder MP whether he thinks depopulation in towns in his region like Burnley and Bolton should be welcomed. It's not a gotcha I'm genuinely interested but no reply was forthcoming. If he answered that depopulation is bad he risks looking like a weird racist who wants to badger white women to have more babies like Cates. If he believes depopulation to be a good thing than he has to answer some serious questions about the economic problems this causes. And he hasn't done any serious thinking beyond 'immigrants bad.'
By Youngian
#88687
Japan's high investment in robot arse wipers over importing Philippinos has so far been unspectular.
https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/0 ... re-robots/

Robots might well have the cognitive abilities of a child when I die and can empty the bins. But anything more complex like roofing or elderly care sounds unlikely.


Zach Polanski defending the need for high immigration to tackle labour shortages was also silent when reminding him that lower populations are long standing goal of environmental movements.
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By Tubby Isaacs
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Zack was a Lib Dem till 2017, so seems like he's been on a personal journey, to say the least. He's now challenging for the leadership, on the grounds that Carla Denyer isn't enthusiastic enough or something. Carla's looked the part to me when I've seen her, and I wonder if her lack of enthusiasm reflects her unease with some of the stuff that gets foisted on Green leaders by their grassroots.
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By Killer Whale
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Youngian wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 12:55 pm Robots might well have the cognitive abilities of a child when I die and can empty the bins. But anything more complex like roofing or elderly care sounds unlikely.
Seems a bit inhumane to expect the elderly to put up with mechanised care. You (one, I mean) wouldn't accept it for babies, after all.

Maybe we've been looking at this from the wrong angle: Treating care work as a well-paid, skilled profession rather than the unskilled, 'just women's work, really' job that it is currently, would be a start.
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By Tubby Isaacs
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Jonathan Hinder seems deeply unimpressive. There are some proper bozos in the Red Wall. Bassetlaw is now represented by Jo White, who is John Mann's wife. She's helpfully weighed in with advice for Starmer like bringing in digital ID cards, on which I'm agnostic but would probably be pretty expensive. Other nuggets she's come up with are sorting out GP access and reducing cost of living. I'm sure Sir Keir's not thought of these issues before.
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