[Tubby Isaacs]

That likely reflects the difference between Bristol Central and Waveney Valley.

Why don't they get rid of this co-leaders nonsense? Carla Denyer has looked fine as leader, except for when she's having to explain away why her co-leader opposes pylons in his constituency. Her view on trans rights will be the one the Greens put forward in constituencies they're targeting too, in cities.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Yeah, Starmer! Why are you spending money on weapons? The welfare bit is entirely fair comment of course.

[The Weeping Angel]

Lordy

[Tubby Isaacs]

From my MP.

It’s time government dropped their war on nature and instead start thinking about how we can deliver the affordable house building we need, and the national infrastructure we all rely on, in a way that works with and for nature, and not against it. The impact assessment makes it abundantly clear that the existing planning and infrastructure bill does not currently do this.

As always, opponents-nimbies never point out that there's a nature restoration fund that offsets local damage. There are questions about how near the offsets should be, but that's not a "war on nature". To use the canonical example, £100m is a lot of money to protect one colony of bats when it could do far more good for bats and everything else if spent on other projects.

I'm getting slightly impatient with the "bad Labour chasing Reform on immigration, but not those houses there" line from the Greens and the Lib Dems. Gabrial Pogrund described the Greens as basically the party for gardeners, and there's some truth in that. How do all these affordable houses get built where people want to live? Wealth tax, no doubt.

[mattomac]

It’s literally everything, masts, transport infrastructure anything that will improve things.

I shouldn’t have a better phone signal in Belo Horizonte than I do in most of Kingston

[Tubby Isaacs]

Carla Denyer says she will not stand again as Greens co-leader
Exclusive: Announcement of desire to focus on MP role means Adrian Ramsay must decide whether to find new co-candidate

Shame. I've thought she looked like she was up to it.

Zack Polanski looks like a Young Man In A Hurry to me. I hope he's upset a few people by jumping the gun. Ellie Chowns may not relish having a mouthy populist leader sticking it to the rich as she knocks on the doors of big country houses (where she will have got a decent number of votes).

[Youngian]

Zack should try his 'eco populism' with Reform voters by reviving the movement's long standing desire to halt population expansion. Trust me, they'll like that one.

[Malcolm Armsteen]

Now advocating that the UK withdraws from NATO.

That'll fly...

[Tubby Isaacs]

I wonder if Carla Denyer has looked into the future and seen a load of Corbyn-SWP goons permanently on her case. As I understand it, the Greens are very member-controlled, so the leadership can't wave the eccentric stuff away.

There's a lot of this in the Greens already- see Zoe Garbett upthread.Imagine a load more of them joining, with social media history of "I stand with David Miller" etc.

[Youngian]

There's something about Zack that Miller doesn't like.
Polanski was selling himself on this podcast and his strategy is if Labour chase Reform than Starmer needs to be shown it'll cost more seats than gains.

[Crabcakes]

Now advocating that the UK withdraws from NATO.

That'll fly...

Indeed. This seems like the most easily avoided own goal, given the current climate.

https://bylinetimes.com/2025/05/08/gree ... -of-trump/

[Tubby Isaacs]

There's the classic exceptionalism of the political fringe there.

Britain just quits NATO and everyone else follows to set up a completely new organization. See also Jez Left "Britain should lead the way in giving up nuclear weapons". Or, on the other side, "We'll quit the EU and everyone will follow". But at least the last group don't call other people "British exceptionalism's" all the time.

[Tubby Isaacs]

As I always say, this reminds me of the kid in my chess team who explained away a defeat with the excuse that the opponent "didn't play the opening right".

[Tubby Isaacs]

There's something about Zack that Miller doesn't like.
Polanski was selling himself on this podcast and his strategy is if Labour chase Reform than Starmer needs to be shown it'll cost more seats than gains.

Ha ha, Zionist. I'll have to reassess Zack if Miller doesn't like him. I wouldn't be surprised if a few people who otherwise like the cut of Zack's jib turn out to be Miller fans.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Jews "weaponize their identity'. They're like that, the sneaky fuckers. It's not like they might genuinely get a bad feeling from parts of the left, or anything.

What an appalling person Miller is.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Polanski seems to have advocated strongly for Palestine as a member of the Greens. But he's still part of a sinister plot to kneecap progressive politics apparently. That's how it goes with Zionists. One minute you're thinking "well, Israel exists and Middle Eastern Jews aren't going to get treated very well anywhere else in the region". The next minute your sinister tentacles are sabotaging progressive change everywhere.

Would any other minority be treated like this? Would a pro-Palestinian who'd said something silly and reactionary in the past be defined by it in Miller's eye? I expect one would get considerable leeway for talking reactionary rubbish now.

[The Weeping Angel]

There's something about Zack that Miller doesn't like.
Polanski was selling himself on this podcast and his strategy is if Labour chase Reform than Starmer needs to be shown it'll cost more seats than gains.

Ha ha, Zionist. I'll have to reassess Zack if Miller doesn't like him. I wouldn't be surprised if a few people who otherwise like the cut of Zack's jib turn out to be Miller fans.

I still haven't forgotten how hundreds of academics signed a letter in support of that man.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Whatever else a wealth tax is, it isn't "simple". Lots of assets are very hard to value. I assume "simple" means they have a threshold and percentage in mind.

But as I say, I think Labour's got to find some more high end taxes or else this will get louder. And she's right about benefit cuts.

[Tubby Isaacs]

One of the good posters BTL on the Guardian today was talking about Carla Denyer, with experience of engineering (and to my mind, perfectly good) retiring amid suggestions she isn't being "populist" enough. I'm no more than a tactical Green voter, but I'd have thought Denyer's expertise was a huge positive for a party who lots of the public think are impractical dreamers.

"Simple wealth tax" is populist and it puts me off.