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By Crabcakes
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Also, if Jez wanted to win elections and form a coalition of the (broad) left/centre left he would have sucked it up and turned up to anti-Brexit rallies. His absence was entirely about his arrogance and unwillingness to compromise despite the immense possibility to prevent it not all harm from Brexit then at least mitigate the worst, while at the same time safely knowing if he did nothing he could still claim he didn’t have a majority so couldn’t effect change. Which of course won’t stop him turning up at the most hopeless and misguided of protests or pickets, but a good old picket line gets him some proper lefty gold stars.

All entirely contradictory behaviours until seen through the lens of self importance
By davidjay
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There you go again, talking about Jez winning elections. That's the last thing he ever wanted.
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By Abernathy
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Andy McDandy wrote: Wed Aug 06, 2025 3:33 pm



There's a frequently reposted letter from one of the big papers, from a guy who lists the things he believes in, and notes that in the 1960s he was on the right wing of the Tories, but is now viewed as a quasi-Socialist despite not changing a single opinion.
I think it was Roy Hattersley that used to say he’d managed to go from being on the right of the Labour Party to being on the left without changing any of his views. Roy is still in the Labour Party (aged 92).

An often heard refrain from those departing political parties on the basis of that old rock band excuse of a “difference in direction” is that “I didn’t leave the [insert party name here], the [insert party name here ] left me” Which IS bollocks. And quite dishonest.
By Oboogie
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Crabcakes wrote: Wed Aug 06, 2025 3:36 pm Also, if Jez wanted to win elections and form a coalition of the (broad) left/centre left he would have sucked it up and turned up to anti-Brexit rallies. His absence was entirely about his arrogance and unwillingness to compromise despite the immense possibility to prevent it not all harm from Brexit then at least mitigate the worst, while at the same time safely knowing if he did nothing he could still claim he didn’t have a majority so couldn’t effect change. Which of course won’t stop him turning up at the most hopeless and misguided of protests or pickets, but a good old picket line gets him some proper lefty gold stars.

All entirely contradictory behaviours until seen through the lens of self importance
And this is what makes Corbyn irrelevant, it doesn't matter if his policies sound good or bad because he'll never deliver any of them anyway.
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By mattomac
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I think I've changed my view on about 3 things since I was about 18 and yet I've ended up jumping about all wings of the Labour party in that time.
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