[davidjay]

Do snakes have bollocks ?

They certainly talk a load of them.

[Boiler]

Driving out of Peterborough on the A47 this morning I spotted a couple of flags dangling from a footbridge: one Union flag and a St. George's Cross flag with "STOP THEM" painted on it. Except "THEM" was painted on the red bit so barely visible

You know; them.

That film looks truly dreadful Mind you, I recognised the Capitol Records building in the background

[Andy McDandy]

A cracking film in the style of B-movies of yore. Doesn't take itself too seriously, and makes some salient points about modern life. It's no Godfather, but it never tries to be.

[Killer Whale]

This city is under martial law until we annihilate THEM!

[The Weeping Angel]

It's also unfortunately been misinterpreted by Neo-Nazis. The notion that aliens are controlling things behind the scenes has some unfortunate implications.

[Andy McDandy]

And of the two stars, one is black, and the other made a living out of beating up actual white supremacist Hulk Hogan.

[Bones McCoy]

And of the two stars, one is black, and the other made a living out of beating up actual white supremacist Hulk Hogan.

Typical Librul Hollywood - fummin.

[Abernathy]

Patriots? What do our Birmingham correspondents think?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyj4y8vq7vo

It's causing us a whole host of problems basically, they've hung the flags up to show pride in our area, their words, not mine anyway, because they hung them up on lampposts that the council has to take them down for the reasons Abers suggested. Of course, this is what they wanted all along.

it’s fairly clear, at any rate it is to me, that the bastards that have been hanging up all these flags are engaged in a blatant exercise in provocation, aimed at stoking racial tensions. It wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest to see any of them turning up as Reform candidates in the city council elections next May. The numbers of apparently gullible simpletons manifesting themselves on social media claiming that the flags are a great idea because “it’s about time we had a bit of pride in our flag and our nation”, and worse, pointing to the Palestinian flags that are similarly being attached to lamp posts in other areas of the city with a high proportion of muslim/people of Asian origin that either elected or almost displaced Labour MPs last July is troublingly high. The unfavourable comparison with the “white” areas of the city is of course entirely intended by the malevolent wankers draping the lamp posts of Northfield and Weoley Castle with flags of St George. It is, in my view, Farage level provocation, and frankly, a fucking disgrace. The city council is, I am certain, all too aware of the political aspects of this cynical campaign, but is also correct to remove the flags (all flags, mind, on grounds of safety and local bye-laws.

[Youngian]

Local flag shagger wasn't happy to be criticised for his pomposity

Supporting your country is a no brainer, do you want extra cookies for boasting about stuff you're supposed to do?

What are you saying? Im free to do whatever I want to. Simply British. It's not boasting!!! And I very rarely post anything on social media .... I'm supposed to do what? Are you offended?

[davidjay]

I agree with Abers, but matters aren't helped by the large numbers of Palestinian flags that were put up. This is worsened by the Weoley Castle Flag Erectors never visiting these areas although they know someone who has.

[Boiler]

Local flag shagger wasn't happy to be criticised for his pomposity

Supporting your country is a no brainer, do you want extra cookies for boasting about stuff you're supposed to do?

What are you saying? Im free to do whatever I want to. Simply British. It's not boasting!!! And I very rarely post anything on social media .... I'm supposed to do what? Are you offended?

I knew someone whose father used to fly the Red Hand of Ulster flag outside his house.

In Huntingdonshire.

Round here you'll either see the flag of Lincolnshire or that of Ukraine.

[Bones McCoy]

I don't have a flagpole.
It never occurred to me to have one.

There's a couple a few doors down who have one that's visible from the main road that passes the estate.

I asked the bloke whether he needed permission for it.
He said he'd checked with the council, they were happy as long as
a) It was a removable flagpole that could be taken down.
b) that he complied with any weather warnings.

The couple are Scots / Venezuelan, and put up flags on national holidays.

That seems to be the right way to do it.
Fly a flag on your flagpole.
And follow the rules to ensure you're not causing a hazard.


Gaffa taping a flag half way up a lamp-post does not seem like "respecting are fleg" in any way.

[Abernathy]

Generally speaking, flags are fucked up. They cause nothing but trouble. So does patriotism. Johnson was correct about it being the last refuge of the scoundrel.

I find patriotism/nationalism profoundly distasteful, but primarily completely irrational. “Pride” in your country ? Pride is, generally speaking, a feeling that should relate to say, a personal achievement- a beautiful garden, say, or a scale model of the Taj Mahal constructed entirely out of beer can ringpulls - or that of a loved one. Something you’ve actually done.

The entirely random occurrence of one’s birth having taken place in a particular geographic location isn’t an achievement. You don’t get a say in it, let alone a choice.

It makes zero sense. This may be at least partly why it appeals so readily to fuckwitted simpletons.

[Malcolm Armsteen]

Furthermore the belief that your country is the best simply because you were born in it...

[kreuzberger]

Pre-ordained imbeciles being offered a Ratner-issued golden key to unlock the mythical joys of the systemic under-achievement which was foisted upon them / us.

Very few of them / us entered education before 1997. I wonder why...

[Youngian]

If an England super patriot was born in the South Pacific their patriotic priority at the moment would be desperately persuading the world to reach climate change targets because their islands are already disappearing under water.
The difference between a Solomon Islands super patriot and an English super patriot in Essex is about two decades.

[Abernathy]

The fuckers are painting mini-roundabouts now.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cde3xy11ggro

This has usually only happened during doomed Engerlund World Cup campaigns.

[Spoonman]

The fuckers are painting mini-roundabouts now.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cde3xy11ggro

This has usually only happened during doomed Engerlund World Cup campaigns.

If I didn't know any better I could have swore they painted a St. Patrick's cross.

[Killer Whale]

Newtown/Y Drenewydd, Powys.

As far as I know, there are 2 (two) adult asylum seekers being housed in Powys. It's almost as if these cunts want something awful to get angry about.

No news yet on how many of people intending to attend the 'peaceful protest' are English white-flighters.

[RedSparrows]

Generally speaking, flags are fucked up. They cause nothing but trouble. So does patriotism. Johnson was correct about it being the last refuge of the scoundrel.

I find patriotism/nationalism profoundly distasteful, but primarily completely irrational. “Pride” in your country ? Pride is, generally speaking, a feeling that should relate to say, a personal achievement- a beautiful garden, say, or a scale model of the Taj Mahal constructed entirely out of beer can ringpulls - or that of a loved one. Something you’ve actually done.

The entirely random occurrence of one’s birth having taken place in a particular geographic location isn’t an achievement. You don’t get a say in it, let alone a choice.

It makes zero sense. This may be at least partly why it appeals so readily to fuckwitted simpletons.

Intellectually I agree with you. But politically this is a non-starter, and the Liberal Tim internet response I've seen a lot recently, of 'get over it flag shaggers' is both hackneyed and politically stupid. Constantly ceding ground to the hypocrites who seek to instrumentalise the basic brute fact that patriotism is easy, patriotism is powerful, and patriotism is prevalent.

It's the last refuge of a scoundrel BECAUSE it's so powerful, and gives a get out of jail free card to the cynic. To dismiss it is like dismissing religion. We can't. The morally awkward things don't vanish because we've 'explained' them. It doesn't work. The 'left' or the 'liberals' need to be far better at handling it than they are, and this is not to take anything away from the wilful ignorance and cynicism of the cunts we face. It's all the more important because of them.

Fundamentally, there's something underneath. The expectation of defeat, the expectation of 'oppression', the expectation of some mytho-heroic conflict with 'Them'. People want to articulate a sense of being downtrodden. It gives symbolic, powerful structure to actual economic and social decline, and gives romance where there is only grimness. The flag is the easiest route to it, and it's playing a game entirely on the right's front lawn.

The issue there is, of course, that it's so embedded with the right that playing the game at all is easily readable as playing the same old Reform playground bundle: why ape them when people can just vote for them instead? For all the fear and wailing about cultural marxism et al, the right have been infinitely cleverer with their cultural work in this space.