[Tubby Isaacs]

Thanks for this. Very revealing indeed. With the caveat that I'm no more a lawyer than the cast of This Life were real lawyers, seems surprising that the Council won the first case at all.

Are we going to see lots of Tory-Reform councils waste money on challenges?

[Boiler]

Expect noise and fury from the usual quarters:

Asylum seekers can stay at hotel in Epping after government wins appeal (links to: BBC)

The judge in that court made a number of errors that "undermine his decision", Lord Justice Bean says while delivering his ruling

See, Opposition, Leader thereof. Absolutely pathetic, seeing it's her mess being cleared up.

Didn't she say in her maiden speech in Parliament that she was a first-generation immigrant?

[Bones McCoy]

[Boiler]

A flag has turned up under a tree in my town.

I think that needs to go.

[AOB]

Just saw a clip on the news of scuffles at Epping last night. In particular, a bloke who looked early 60s in a St George flag top mouthing off to police. He's the "grandad of 3" type who will burst into tears in the dock if he was arrested and charged. Then again, they all are these far right racists. Biggest fucking group of cry babies around. It's the only bright spot in civil unrest, reading about them crying in the dock at their trial at the end of it all.

[kreuzberger]

2-tear justice ...

[zuriblue]

A bit about the leader of the flag numpties in Manchester.

https://manchestermill.co.uk/manchester ... -smuggler/

A bit mixed up, wants to protect are women and girls from illegal immigunts but has done a 20 month stretch for people smuggling.

Anyone else see the irony?

[davidjay]

A bit about the leader of the flag numpties in Manchester.

https://manchestermill.co.uk/manchester ... -smuggler/

A bit mixed up, wants to protect are women and girls from illegal immigunts but has done a 20 month stretch for people smuggling.

Anyone else see the irony?

Anyone surprised?

[Tubby Isaacs]

Just saw a clip on the news of scuffles at Epping last night. In particular, a bloke who looked early 60s in a St George flag top mouthing off to police. He's the "grandad of 3" type who will burst into tears in the dock if he was arrested and charged. Then again, they all are these far right racists. Biggest fucking group of cry babies around. It's the only bright spot in civil unrest, reading about them crying in the dock at their trial at the end of it all.

Obviously don't know who he is, but there's a big local far right tradition in Epping/ Debden, and some BNP councillors got elected in the noughties. Might not be the first time he's been involved in this sort of thing.

[Bones McCoy]

Just saw a clip on the news of scuffles at Epping last night. In particular, a bloke who looked early 60s in a St George flag top mouthing off to police. He's the "grandad of 3" type who will burst into tears in the dock if he was arrested and charged. Then again, they all are these far right racists. Biggest fucking group of cry babies around. It's the only bright spot in civil unrest, reading about them crying in the dock at their trial at the end of it all.

Obviously don't know who he is, but there's a big local far right tradition in Epping/ Debden, and some BNP councillors got elected in the noughties. Might not be the first time he's been involved in this sort of thing.

Back at the turn of the '80s, the Debden Skins were a significant risk on the streets.

It must be 20 years ago, Alan Davis made a documentary visiting some significant places fomr his youth.
One "guest" was a former leader of the gang, almost metamophed into a full Gammon.
He cheerily recounted "heading up east on the tube to beat up Pakis".
He still sported signs of an orbital fracture by his left eye.

I recall thinking: "I remember when he got that".

[Tubby Isaacs]

Rather you than me. I was scared enough going through Debden on the Central Line.

[davidjay]

We're headed towards full-on pogroms.

Police seek two men after Islamic centre vandalised
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqjyn0djz72o

Masked men among those attempting to enter London migrant hotel - as five arrested
https://news.sky.com/story/masked-men-a ... d-13421326

[Malcolm Armsteen]

Cuntface Nigel will be rubbing his nicotine-stained hands together in glee.

[Youngian]

If asylum applicants are murdered in an arson attack, Nigel will be washing the blood off his hands and his dabs off the crime scene. Nothing to do with him, he never advocated that kind of violence.

[Boiler]

Police can order hotel protesters to remove masks

Essex Police said a Section 60AA order, under the Public Order Act 1986, has been put in place in Epping, giving officers this power. A dispersal order is also in place.

Earlier, two men from the local area were charged in relation to incidents outside the town's Bell Hotel on Friday night.

One man was charged with failing to produce a specimen after being arrested on suspicion of drink driving, and the second with assaulting an emergency worker.

Come on, show us how fucking brave you are.

[Andy McDandy]

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/epping-hotel- ... 30743.html

A lawyer who writes for the Spectator, and who appears to have no background in asylum issues, has submitted a complaint against the chief judge in the Epping Hotel case. To describe it, I think the word we're looking for is "vexatious".

Basically, Judge Bean is from Matrix Chambers. Yeah, Cherie Blair's gang! He's bias, and he's dun a hippocrasee!

Seriously, that's about all there is to it. Torygraph considers it news.

[davidjay]

If asylum applicants are murdered in an arson attack, Nigel will be washing the blood off his hands and his dabs off the crime scene. Nothing to do with him, he never advocated that kind of violence.

Many years ago a documentary about Northern Ireland included interviews with Loyalist prisoners, who to a man had nothing but contempt for Ian Paisley, who they said wound them up then condemned them when they broke the law. History repeats itself.

[Andy McDandy]

In the words of Proinsas Cassidy, those are the cunts you kill first.

[satnav]

Watching the news and reading the papers over the last 6 weeks you would think that the country was in the grip of serious disorder but the reality is very different. Last night I was in Nottingham with my wife celebrating our 27th wedding anniversary, we had booked into a hotel for the night so I could do a Parkrun this morning.

After enjoying a really good Indian meal we decided to take a walk through the Cities main park just to check out where the Parkrun would start and what the course was like. At 7 o'clock on a Friday night there must have been between 300 and 400 people of different races and nationalities all get a long fine. There were people playing football and cricket, some people were enjoying an evening stroll and others were just sat in groups socialising. There was no trouble and no tension. This morning we headed back to the Parkrun and it was just the same. A football coach was setting up a training session that catered for a wide mixed of children, Parkrun itself also involved a wide mixed of participants including parents with kids in buggies, a group of runners recovering from cancer, a Nordic walking club plus runners from the age of 10 to 85. Everybody got on absolutely fine. This is probably much closer to the reality of multi-culturalism in this country than the news and the papers would have us believe.

[Watchman]

Just as an aside, which Parkrun was it, as your nearly in my neck of the woods