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By Malcolm Armsteen
#95303
(The Sound Lounge is a decent music venue and café in Sutton)

Last night outside the Sound Lounge, at around 9:30pm whilst we had a (beautiful) live music event happening, we were confronted by around 20+ white males with massive ladders putting up union flags at the top of the lamp posts outside the venue.
I, a woman on my own, spoke to them to them to ask what they are were doing, I did not shout. I did not call them any names. Two of them were close to my face calling me f*****g c**t and repeatedly shouting “tell me what country you are from? What country do you live in?”. It was intimidating. At one point a group of them were around me shouting at me at the same time.
The only reason we are sharing these details is to highlight that they were not trying to bring people together or create unity.
OUTCOME:
1. The flags were put up across the high street. Nobody was hurt.
2. Now, more than ever, we have to stand for kindness and humanity. We are aware of the business-owners on the high street from Hong Kong, India and other part of the world. One, we spoke to last night who was working alone in his shop, was really worried. We need to be VISIBLE about standing up for each other so they don’t feel alone & we need to NOT give in to hate.
3. Not giving in to hate, includes not hating the people who are putting up flags. We HAVE to be more elevated than that. These people have stories. They have reasons. We don’t have to agree with them but the least we can do is listen ♥️
ACTION:
With that in mind & to ensure no individual or community in Sutton is feeling intimidated or under threat right now, we do not want to erase the voices of these men, we want to add to the flag display to celebrate ALL our diverse communities, which of course includes St George (a Turkish economic migrant with Syrian father & Palestinian mother) 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 and our Union flag celebrating all the nations that make up the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 ♥️✊
PLEASE bring your flags of the country you are from, your LGBTQ+ flags, human rights flags, peace flags or silks….anything we can hang from our lamp posts. Let’s make Sutton High Street a display of PEACE & LOVE and DIVERSITY ☮️
Bring your items to The Sound Lounge from 10:30am today and we will sort out the rest.
#LoveNotHate 💜💛❤️
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By Andy McDandy
#95305
I saw an item about people from my home town objecting to the flags being put up outside their homes, and the commentary was all "bet they're a forrin" and "let's go round and give them something serious to moan about".

Also saw a thing asking, if this was all innocent and well meaning:

1. Why are people wearing masks when putting them up?
2. Why are so many disproportionately placed at provocative sites?
3. Why is there no linkage to an event, be it a historic date, a sports contest, whatever - nor any time limit on how long they'll stay up?
4. Why is there no other activity, such as street parties, parades, celebrations etc taking place alongside the flags?
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By Abernathy
#95306
All very peace n' love, but I'm really not sure that turning the whole street into an open air haberdashery store is the right response at all. Can't remember who talked about acquainting the heads of fascists with paving stones, but they were onto something.
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By Boiler
#95308
Abernathy wrote: Mon Sep 01, 2025 2:50 pm Can't remember who talked about acquainting the heads of fascists with paving stones
Trotsky.

Sometimes I am soo tempted to hang a Palestinian flag up but it's all just stupid, childish nonsense from knobheads.
Last edited by Boiler on Mon Sep 01, 2025 2:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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By Andy McDandy
#95309
Could have been Gramsci. In Alan Bleasdale's "GBH", it was attributed to Trotsky (cue Robert Lindsay - "Aye, clever bugger were that Trotsky").
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By Malcolm Armsteen
#95310
Abernathy wrote: Mon Sep 01, 2025 2:50 pm All very peace n' love, but I'm really not sure that turning the whole street into an open air haberdashery store is the right response at all. Can't remember who talked about acquainting the heads of fascists with paving stones, but they were onto something.
It's not the way I would have done it, but it'll confuse the hell out of the gammon and the flagwankers.
By Oboogie
#95327
Crabcakes wrote: Mon Sep 01, 2025 4:14 pm I am delighted to see from the social interwebs that the term “roundabout painter” has entered the lexicon as an insult 😁
I'm already looking forward to using it. :D
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#95333
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