By Oboogie
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Andy McDandy wrote: Sun Aug 31, 2025 3:58 pm No, they just absorbed the attitude every day of their lives. South Yorkshire pit villages circa 1984 were not renowned for their cosmopolitan atmosphere. Although in fairness, they also thought of gay people as effeminate, weak, and promiscuous, as well as evil.
That's correct, and it wasn't exclusive to miners or South Yorkshire. However discrimination was illegal and it certainly wasn't taught as part of any industrial training. Much of British society and the law have moved on in the last forty years the outposts of homophobia remain, of course, but they are largely restricted to aged football hooligans and religious fruitloops.
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By Tubby Isaacs
#95274
Think it's highly unlikely that the majority of voters of these Gaza Independent MPs are anything but, shall we say, highly gender critical. And there's also the dynamic of "community leaders" and the like. But that doesn't mean that Queers For Palestine won't have impressed some, particularly younger, activists, who may be less than enthusiastic about the aforesaid community leaders. I'd expect some of these younger activists to prefer the Green Party. So in that sense it probably will be a nuisance for the Gaza Independents who didn't have to worry about this issue (or any other) at the election. Won't be true at the next one.
By davidjay
#95288
kreuzberger wrote: Sun Aug 31, 2025 4:02 pm Old school, working class bigotry. Or "social conservatism", as the linguistic whitewashers would repackage it.
Or Old Labour as a lot of Reform voters would say.
By Oboogie
#95504
davidjay wrote: Wed Sep 03, 2025 7:19 pm
Oboogie wrote: Wed Sep 03, 2025 3:42 pm Further signs of a lack of unity in YourParty.

"Gaza activists attack Corbyn after he refuses to say he is an anti-Zionist"

https://www.thejc.com/news/politics/gaz ... t-kitc82us
Left or right, you'll never be extreme enough for some.
Some are saying on Bluesky that you can't be anti-racist unless you are anti-Zionist, ergo Corbyn is a racist. Fuck me, they'll be saying Labour were right to expel him next!
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By Crabcakes
#95559
Oboogie wrote: Wed Sep 03, 2025 3:42 pm Further signs of a lack of unity in YourParty.

"Gaza activists attack Corbyn after he refuses to say he is an anti-Zionist"

https://www.thejc.com/news/politics/gaz ... t-kitc82us
On the one hand this is clearly all bonkers. On the other, imagine how furious Corbyn must be to be labelled not right on enough.

He’s been a *life-long* campaigner against things, don’t you know?
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By Tubby Isaacs
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This is what you get when you elevate one issue like they have. It's literally the only thing some people in the party will be interested in, and it's going to be hard to keep them all happy.

The Greens are going to slaughter Your Party.
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By Abernathy
#95561
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 5:18 pm
The Greens are going to slaughter Your Party.
Yes, I think that’s probably correct. Particularly with Zac Wotsischops stealing Corbyn’s clothes ( and probably doing a better job of it).
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