Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Wed Sep 10, 2025 5:45 pm Thought he could do a job with Trump, and it seems to have been working. But always a risk, perhaps about to become untenable.
Ed Davey seemed to suggest that Mandelson might be at risk from blackmail by Trump. He may have got that the wrong way round.
"It just could not happen in Britain
How do you get rid of Mandelson without basically implying thatTrump is a paedophile himself?
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Wed Sep 10, 2025 6:51 pm That's not really coaching, is it? But yeah, this is untenable, and a huge mess. How do you get rid of Mandelson without basically implying thatTrump is a paedophile himself?Of course, this has gotten people thinking this is all over for Starmer.
Boiler wrote: ↑Thu Sep 11, 2025 7:41 am It would appear that the riff from Seven Nation Army now has different lyrics for a different leader;
https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... -the-enemy
Perhaps not unexpected from the kickball crowd...![]()
First, because the people singing about Starmer are not the kind of extremists reported in these pages marauding across Kentish villages waving the flag like a club. These are solvent steady grown-ups, people who vote and are organised enough to travel, who were praised by the Belgrade police on Wednesday for their exemplary behaviour, and who, for what it’s worth, berated the home crowd for being racist, incorrectly in the event, when the game was stopped because somebody was shining a laser pointer at Noni Madueke. And second, because this hasn’t happened before. Starmer is the first prime minister to actively lose football. The national anthem, the Queen, the King, have been booed. But politicians have been pretty much invisible in football, even when Margaret Thatcher was actively demonising supporters, even through the public farce of Johnson and Truss. Tony Blair tried to piggyback football as a pop culture thing, but remained a gurning jackanapes on the fringes.Yes, Barney I'm sure England fans have never said anything bad about any other PM.