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By Tubby Isaacs
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Oboogie wrote: Tue Nov 11, 2025 11:44 pm That's because Starmer hates borders and doesn't think the US should defend theirs either!

(I think that was Robert Jenrick's comment, but it could have been Farage or Robinson).
Fuck me, seriously?

Who is this drivel supposed to be appeal to in the UK? Trump is unpopular even on the right. It's like Huddlestone yesterday talking about the BBC needing to "grovel" to Trump.
By Oboogie
#99736
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Wed Nov 12, 2025 10:06 am Trump is unpopular even on the right.
Really? Not what I've seen!
I don't know what percentage they represent but there seems to be no shortage of Vox poppers happy to go on camera saying, what this country needs is our own Donald Trump
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By Tubby Isaacs
#99741
They don't necessarily mean they approve of Trump when they say that. They say they want someone like him but on behalf of Britain. Which is ridiculous obviously. See Liz Truss.
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By Tubby Isaacs
#99757
More irregular verbs here. I am a measured commentator who points out facts. You are a cultist who attacks people.

Per David Henig and Steve Peers, Labour being "stuck on Brexit" at the moment is down to EU members dicking about and trying to get out of the deal the Commission struck. Edwin's not going to tell you that.

I'll give Edwin credit for being serious on tax- he points out that the rich do pay a lot of tax. But I guess the EU is his thing, and he has to play that for clicks.

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By Tubby Isaacs
#99758
Oh no, I can't believe you misrepresented me, says bloke who managed to get an article about how the Government was deregulating toxic chemicals from a consultation that floated mutual recognition in some cases. interesting that he thinks that building infrastructure and housing is right wing too.

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By mattomac
#99783
The Tories are classic "not in our backyard" so I'm not sure how it's planning act is Tory. Labour have also always been more to the right on law and order than general.

They tend to balance it our with more social approaches to society such as legalisation of Homosexuality and so on.
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By Tubby Isaacs
#99808
It didn't make much sense that Number 10 would off its own bat just start mouthing off about a coup, for which there doesn't seem to be much evidence. There might be one, there might not.

I remember the Guardian in 2014 magicking up "Ed Miliband's bad summer" out of not very much.
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By The Weeping Angel
#99812
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Wed Nov 12, 2025 7:58 pm It didn't make much sense that Number 10 would off its own bat just start mouthing off about a coup, for which there doesn't seem to be much evidence. There might be one, there might not.

I remember the Guardian in 2014 magicking up "Ed Miliband's bad summer" out of not very much.
Do you think this will end with Starmer gone by this time next year?
By Oboogie
#99816
The Weeping Angel wrote: Wed Nov 12, 2025 8:40 pm
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Wed Nov 12, 2025 7:58 pm It didn't make much sense that Number 10 would off its own bat just start mouthing off about a coup, for which there doesn't seem to be much evidence. There might be one, there might not.

I remember the Guardian in 2014 magicking up "Ed Miliband's bad summer" out of not very much.
Do you think this will end with Starmer gone by this time next year?
Starmer's just turned 63 and will probably be approaching 67 at the next election so he may not want to serve another term. That said, I can't see him stepping down more than a year out from the next election - what would be the point? Next year is far too early.
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By Abernathy
#99820
Perhaps. Jeremy Corbyn was 66 in 2015 but insisted he was spry enough to celebrate his 68th birthday in 10 Downing Street in 2017, having won the election.

Maybe not a good example. Mind you, I’d not begrudge Keir if he decides that he’s had enough when he’s 67.
By Oboogie
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Abernathy wrote: Wed Nov 12, 2025 9:22 pm Perhaps. Jeremy Corbyn was 66 in 2015 but insisted he was spry enough to celebrate his 68th birthday in 10 Downing Street in 2017, having won the election.

Maybe not a good example. Mind you, I’d not begrudge Keir if he decides that he’s had enough when he’s 67.
I was thinking about Starmer being potentially (if he wins the next election) still in office at 72 - that would make him the oldest PM since Churchill.
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By Abernathy
#99829
I dunno. To me, it seems that Starmer has barely got started. He’s been given a cunt of a legacy.
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