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Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 11:08 pm
by Arrowhead
Youngian wrote: Sun Oct 09, 2022 7:45 pm Desperate assembly of rubbish even for Dan Hodges. He’s the pundit version of a contestant on Junkyard challenge.
Lord only knows what his Mum makes of his antics. Must be a tough gig being Labour Party royalty and having a son who makes a living being a professional contrarian for the Daily Mail.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:14 pm
by Youngian
Learned in a recent interview that Glenda Jackson didn’t turn up to collect either of her Oscars. “I was working,” she claimed. Don’t be coy Glenda you were just too cool for skool.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 1:53 am
by mattomac
I think people did over estimate Liz Truss, so much so she’s been even worse than the low expectations set, 3 weeks into PM you don’t have the Sunday’s briefing and counter briefing each other on the Government.

That’s a government lost at sea and there is no land in sight.

A government divided.
Unpopular policy that is costing people money.
Very little action on cost of living but pretending they’ve delivered.

= Those polls.

And I have noted a fair bit of talk about polling, but these aren’t the polls of the 60’s, 70’s 80’s or even 90’s they aren’t that far out.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 12:31 am
by davidjay
And there's still two years of profit-taking for the bastards.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 12:35 pm
by Dalem Lake
So isn't this backtrack on the Energy Guarantee in Hunt's budget another "Starmer was right" moment? I remember a certain Laura Kuensberg hauling him over the coals in an interview because he would only have it for six months and then look at the situation, whilst Truss had promised it for two years. Well now its, er, six months and then the government will look at it.

PMQ's is going to be carnage if Truss shows up.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 12:41 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
If.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:09 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Labour has tabled an Urgent Question to Truss, and the Speaker has accepted it.

She will have to answer, either in person or by sending an appropriate minister.

This is a clever move by Starmer - it's essentially 'Have you stopped beating your wife?'. If she dodges it she is done, if she attends herself she will be shredded.

I'm going out this afternoon, can someone tell me what happens?


Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:21 pm
by davidjay
She's sending Mordaunt.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:25 pm
by Andy McDandy
"Decisive action, support for the most in need, compassionate conservatism, one nation, tough choices, no easy answers, gissa job..."

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:26 pm
by Watchman
Does this mean she’s in the library drafting her resignation letter ?

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:11 am
by kreuzberger
I have an appointment with the hip lads tomorrow so I will miss the next bout of PMQs. My guess is that he is too decent a cove to run in with anything other than easy balls.

Fact is, Truss is too daft to realise her entrapment as she is called to question on the equally daft decisions which are tying her in knots. The triple-lock question should be polite enough but one which will floor her.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:14 am
by Samanfur
Starmer's an experienced barrister. He won't ask any questions he doesn't already know the answers to.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:19 am
by Andy McDandy
"Difficult decisions....swift action....global problems....no plan from the opposition...."

That in reply to everything. Could be funny if she uses it in response to a request for her to congratulate Little Dribbling on the Wold for winning Barsetshire in Bloom.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 11:13 am
by Bones McCoy
kreuzberger wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:11 am I have an appointment with the hip lads tomorrow so I will miss the next bout of PMQs. My guess is that he is too decent a cove to run in with anything other than easy balls.

Fact is, Truss is too daft to realise her entrapment as she is called to question on the equally daft decisions which are tying her in knots. The triple-lock question should be polite enough but one which will floor her.
To continue the cricketing analogy.

I soon learned that firing in lightning bouncers at tailenders was a waste.
They wouldn't hit it, it wouldn't hit the stumps, and if the keeper missed it away it went for four byes.

Much better to deliver a slower straight ball, and wait for them to miss.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 11:14 am
by Bones McCoy
But I think it more likely that we'll be seeing Jeremy Hunt Questions (Though other ministers are also available).

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:48 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Keir hates working people latest. Perhaps Mick Cash and Sharon Graham can reflect?

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2022 12:36 am
by mattomac
The reaction from the dumb to the speech seemed to question his upbringing and other cheap jibes.

The awful time at the TUC didn’t seem to materialise, bit like he wouldn’t step foot in Liverpool.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:16 am
by Youngian
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:48 pm Keir hates working people latest. Perhaps Mick Cash and Sharon Graham can reflect?
Couldn’t persuade a single Brexit xenophobe (allegedly concerned about lowering wages when they can blame the foreigners) to even entertain the idea of sector wage councils to prevent wage depression when you have over supply of labour. One of the only politicians I met during the EURef whose face lit up and got the politics of this issue was Keir Starmer.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 7:11 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I think Sir Keir was right to intervene here, on balance.
Labour has ordered MP Nadia Whittome to delete a tweet saying Rishi Sunak becoming prime minister "isn't a win for Asian representation".
Whittome is good generally, and she's got a defensible argument- that Sunak's politics aren't good for Asian people, or anyone else. It's not like you can point to bad phrasing or anything, she's clear what she means. The trouble is though that "representation" in politics has generally been taken to mean no more than increasing the numbers of minorities, women, non-straight MPs. I don't recall too many people saying "Nadine Dorries doesn't count as a woman because politics". We just totted up all the female MPs and when it went up, we said representation was improving. So the phrase could be read as saying Sunak isn't properly Asian, and not in bad faith.

That's a tweet that's more trouble than it's worth, as far as I'm concerned. Better it's taken down, as has happened, but no need to humiliate Whittome with forced apologies. I think the outcome has been right on this.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 7:48 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Tanita Tikaram has Tweeted the same.

No-one has called her racist (you see why) - but if we can't criticise people of colour when they do shitty things we are fucked.