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Re: Nimbies

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2025 9:09 pm
by The Weeping Angel
As I said above, some Yimbys can be just as crazy as Nimbys.

https://conservativehome.com/2025/07/23 ... fused%20to
Planning reform was once championed by Robert Jenrick, whose white paper led by Jack Airey acknowledged the brutal reality of land economics. Labour eventually embraced some form of it.

As founder of Labour YIMBY, I battled against “Developer’s Charter” smears and pushed planning reform as a growth strategy. Rachel Reeves echoed that message, until Labour pulled the plug. A government minister recently called the U-turn on the Planning and Infrastructure Bill a “win-win,” just days after appearing at a CPRE event. CPRE, whose alumni include suspended MP Chris Hinchliff, would rather protect hedgerows than house young families.

Hinchliff, a self-professed socialist darling of the progressive vegetable lobby, had just published an article calling for Labour to stand up to “vested interests.” Yet he championed more power for unaccountable quangos like Natural England, who is now proposed to wield veto power through new “Environmental Delivery Plans.” This is governance by unelected lawyers and activist bureaucrats. Britain is no longer governed by the rule of law, but by the rule of lawyers, who lick their lips at the prospect of juicy high-cost judicial reviews.

Labour had a chance to change Britain. But they blew it.

Re: Nimbies

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2025 10:46 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
He's just generally mad.
I spent years fighting the Corbynistas, only for Starmer to reward them with cabinet seats. Labour today rewards rebels and punishes loyalists. It’s no longer a vehicle for aspirational working people. For we are the PIP and asylum seeker PAYEpigs. Instead, it appears more homely for a self-satisfied privileged elite who’ve never had to budget for a nursery bill, fight a hundred hours a week to pay a mortgage, or defend their beliefs against anti-white smears.
Who are the Corbyn supporters in the Cabinet? Who are these anti-white smearers we're all worried about? What does he want Labour to do about asylum seekers?

Housing affordability has improved under Labour, whatever else has or hasn't.

Re: Nimbies

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2025 10:49 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I hope I am wrong, but every last flicker of hope has been all but extinguished in Labour’s YIMBY movement. Yet those ideas still live on in the Conservatives. Conservative YIMBY has had more impact in its fledgling few weeks and months, pushing more amendments and policy ideas
Whut?

Of the Conservative Yimbies, I can only recall Simon Clarke, who lost his seat. That sounds like a bloke who's got some new friends and is a bit overexcited. Oh, I see what this is based on UK Onward have done a report. Wow. They'll definitely be building a load of houses in Kemi's constituency.

Re: Nimbies

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2025 11:03 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Christ.
Hinchliff, a self-professed socialist darling of the progressive vegetable lobby, had just published an article calling for Labour to stand up to “vested interests.” Yet he championed more power for unaccountable quangos like Natural England, who is now proposed to wield veto power through new “Environmental Delivery Plans.” This is governance by unelected lawyers and activist bureaucrats. Britain is no longer governed by the rule of law, but by the rule of lawyers, who lick their lips at the prospect of juicy high-cost judicial reviews.
That's literally the guy who they just kicked out of the PLP.

"Rule of lawyers" klaxon.

Natural England, if the Government wants it to be light touch, will likely be light touch. See eg Ofwat, which till recently (with damaging consequences) kept bills down because that's what the Government wanted.

Re: Nimbies

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2025 11:05 pm
by mattomac
“As I founded”

Seems he set up a twitter account with a nice logo.

As for the piece on Conservative Home the Tories would often think aloud but they never did anything, levelling up was suppose to park tanks on Labour’s lawns but it became a byword for corruption.

Grove’s renters rights bill was a big thing but his own party ditched it as soon as they could, several LGBTQ+ organisations celebrated the announcement on gay conversion therapy being outlawed when it made the Queens speech, it’s still not been and the fact it was the Queen tells you it’s a few years back now.

They were good at telling us what they would do, they were very poor at delivering. Labour should be pursuing the ban on this conversion and I will give them their government period as they had it in their manifesto. I do think after the Trans stuff it would be good for the government to offer it up as a branch to our community.

I think some ministers and MPs didn’t cover themselves in much glory when the high court made its statement.

Re: Nimbies

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2025 11:07 pm
by Youngian
Hinchliff, a self-professed socialist darling of the progressive vegetable lobby

What’s a progressive vegetable?

Re: Nimbies

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2025 11:16 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
His whole schtick seems to be "Labour are useless, they haven't yet solved all those long term problems my new mates in the Tory Party dumped on them".

Ha ha ha ha.
100 Labour backbenchers would also rather protect winter cruise allowances for millionaire pensioners than fund national defence. A dangerous political class that is not only deeply misguided but sees the House of Commons as an arena to cosplay as working-class saviours.
What was the Tory position on the WFA, Chris? Labour have at least saved something. The Tories wanted it restored to all.
led by a man whose convictions blow with the wind, in a room full of progressive elites who sneer at borders, deride tax reform, and roll their eyes at working-class ambition.
Yeah, never hear Starmer talk about borders. Or do deals with Macron that the Tories wanted to make and couldn't, Who derides tax reform anyway? People don't do it when they should but there's a reason lots of it doesn't happen- because you get killed on it by dishonest attacks from the likes of his new Tory mates.

Sneers at working class ambition is like "hates the military". No evidence needs to be offered beyond amateur psychology.

Re: Nimbies

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2025 11:17 pm
by mattomac
Self professed knob.

Re: Nimbies

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2025 11:30 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Community cohesion is collapsing. One local school now reports that none of its pupils speak English as a first language. Is that integration? Or is it a sign multiculturalism has failed
Or a sign that these kids are bilingual, perhaps? This isn't even new in Tower Hamlets, which as he surely knows has been getting very good school results. How does that happen if the kids are all sat around in some sort of un-British bubble?

Re: Nimbies

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2025 11:33 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Just the Afghan resettlement scheme alone will house 38,000 people—equivalent to nearly 7,000 homes on typical Afghan households of 5.5.
ThIs scheme brought together two Tory schemes. Has he pressed Kemi Badenoch and Robert Jenrick on this?

Re: Nimbies

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2025 11:44 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I see he's deleted his old Twitter account. Though Google shows a preview of a tweet talking about how much Labour had delivered in power.

What a guy.

Re: Nimbies

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2025 12:29 am
by The Weeping Angel
Also, the Tories voted against the planning bill.

Re: Nimbies

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2025 3:21 pm
by mattomac
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Wed Jul 23, 2025 11:16 pm His whole schtick seems to be "Labour are useless, they haven't yet solved all those long term problems my new mates in the Tory Party dumped on them".

Ha ha ha ha.
100 Labour backbenchers would also rather protect winter cruise allowances for millionaire pensioners than fund national defence. A dangerous political class that is not only deeply misguided but sees the House of Commons as an arena to cosplay as working-class saviours.
What was the Tory position on the WFA, Chris? Labour have at least saved something. The Tories wanted it restored to all.
led by a man whose convictions blow with the wind, in a room full of progressive elites who sneer at borders, deride tax reform, and roll their eyes at working-class ambition.
Yeah, never hear Starmer talk about borders. Or do deals with Macron that the Tories wanted to make and couldn't, Who derides tax reform anyway? People don't do it when they should but there's a reason lots of it doesn't happen- because you get killed on it by dishonest attacks from the likes of his new Tory mates.

Sneers at working class ambition is like "hates the military". No evidence needs to be offered beyond amateur psychology.
Intriguing that working class ambition only seems to go as far as being some to deride the Labour Party because if you mention a working class person going to University that is automatically not something to be praised.

Re: Nimbies

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2025 3:41 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
The Weeping Angel wrote: Thu Jul 24, 2025 12:29 am Also, the Tories voted against the planning bill.
But UK Onward has published a pamphlet! That means that it'll definitely happen when they get into Government. Simon Clarke said all this stuff before the election, and nobody in the Government was interested.

Re: Nimbies

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2025 9:13 pm
by The Weeping Angel
I don't think Bob Blackman read the pamphlet,