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Crabcakes wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 2:40 pm
If that doesn’t expose how utterly desperate they are for votes, I don’t know what will. Their internal polling must be showing things are even worse than they look. And they look pretty fucking awful for them.

Doesn't seem to be any pitch to Lib Dem leaners at all, who were prepared to give Sunak a chance. They've completely blown that card they had.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 2:35 pm Farage rules out rejoining Tory party after Sunak suggests he might be allowed in

Nothing Farage says is worth the paper it’s written on. He needs a safe seat first before he fucks over his own Ltd company the Reform Party. Or make further arrangements for Tice et al to follow him.

‘A broad church.’ Free market robber barons and the National Front in blazers. Farage straddles both strands.

I reckon Sunak will make Farage his Immigration Czar. That would go down well with the Telegraph and the right wing tabloids.

If Farage gains a safe seat he’ll be the Tory leader after the next election.

Nah, the pro-Russia stuff would rule him out.

Ha ha ha ha.

Oh dear.

Keep an eye out for the date of the funding. A good bet that it's a long way into the future so they can make tax cuts and stick within their fiscal rules.

Youngian wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 5:50 pm If Farage gains a safe seat he’ll be the Tory leader after the next election.

New Year's honours list, a quick reshuffle, and Bob's yer uncle.

(They did it with that Frost twat, so it's within the realm of possibility.)

satnav wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 5:05 pm I reckon Sunak will make Farage his Immigration Czar. That would go down well with the Telegraph and the right wing tabloids.

No chance he'd accept, it would mean putting his money where his mouth is. All he can do is stand on the White Cliffs. screaming at the RNLI, not put forward any coherent plan

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 6:34 pm Ha ha ha ha.

So my vote in borough and county elections means nothing?

Trumpism. If it's not us, it's failing. Even if it looks like it's succeeding, it's actually failing. It's just that the failing lefties don't want to admit it.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 6:10 pm Nah, the pro-Russia stuff would rule him out.

It didn't hurt Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss.......

Bones McCoy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 7:04 pm

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 6:10 pm Nah, the pro-Russia stuff would rule him out.

It didn't hurt Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss.......

Those are just greedy for easy money. But they do at least think Russia shouldn't invade Ukraine. Farage is a full on "well we did poke the Russian bear, so blah blah".

Farage and the Tory party - a perfect match. Both have a track record of shafting their closest allies and much as they may publicly oppose him, Farage is the archetypal Tory - rich, bigoted, entitled and convinced he's opposed by the Establishment he's clearly a part of.

davidjay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 7:28 pm Farage and the Tory party - a perfect match. Both have a track record of shafting their closest allies and much as they may publicly oppose him, Farage us the archetypal Tory - rich, bigoted, entitled and convinced he's opposed by the Establishment he's clearly a part of.

You’re not wrong. Now that Farage has successfully re-shaped the Conservative Party into a grand-scale version of UKIP/Reform/the BNP, he is now about formally to (re)join the party and perhaps banish the memory of his hitherto seven time failure to be elected to parliament. Hence the conference fringe schmoozing and dancing the Aga-doo with Shiti Patel. Fuck, it’s not even inconceivable that if he can tear himself away from his “media career” on GBeebies, he could follow in Johnson’s footsteps. Which tells you a great deal about wher the Conservative Party is in 2023.

Youngian wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 5:50 pm If Farage gains a safe seat he’ll be the Tory leader after the next election.

The silver lining to all this would be Farage as opposition leader, and Braverman suddenly finding herself ‘mysteriously’ sidelined by him and out of the shadow cabinet. And also Patel. And Badenoch.

That speech in full:
* no trains
* no fags
* no pronouns we don’t like

He's challenged Labour to say they'll build HS2. If they do, "Labour's tax bombshell".

I hope Labour does, not least because Sunak is lying about having saved £36bn. The link to Manchester from Birmingham doesn't cost £36bn extra. Labour will want to decide in its own time, but when it does it can say "Sunak said it would cost £36bn. We'll do it for £x"