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Might be two different things being talked about, in fairness.

West Yorkshire Mass Transit is the thing that covers the wider area, by various means. Leeds Supertram was the project just in Leeds.

Bradford Station seems to be back on having been cancelled by Sunak last year.

This seems suboptimal.

A friend points out that a hell of a lot of formerly green belt land is now brownfield and available for purchase at a song, if you know the right people.

Not sure that the "gag" was contempt of court, might well be different in Scotland, but the bit about Sunak's intellectual arrogance is definitely spot on.

The fag packet list looks as credible as Johnson's 40 hospitals.

Advice for anybody in that north celebrating that there'll be an extra bus on Tuesdays.
Take a look at all the previous levelling up projects.

Plenty of talk, very little implementation.

I know I'm going on here, but how does Birmingham- Manchester cost "£36bn", but Liverpool to Manchester on dedicated high speed line costs "£12bn"? Manchester and Liverpool are, well, fairly urban.

Not much. Better range of snacks in the buffet car?

So let me understand this: if you're a year younger than the legal age to buy gaspers when his law is passed, technically you'll never be able to buy them - ever?

In a country which, due to climate change, a decent bottle of fizz can be produced, an allotment full of tobacco will be child's play.

kreuzberger wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 10:11 pm In a country which, due to climate change, a decent bottle of fizz can be produced, an allotment full of tobacco will be child's play.

You've reminded me that my grandfather grew his own baccy in the early 70s... I just about remember it.

The main problem with Sunak's smoking policies is that it is focussed on the age of when you can buy cigarettes. If parents or older siblings buy the cigarettes young people will still be able to smoke. Surely there also needs to be more done to educate children about the damage that tobacco can do to your health.

At one time schools spent a lot of time teaching about the dangers in smoking but in recent years I've seen very few anti-smoking initiatives in schools. At the moment in schools the biggest problem seems to be with vaping. It is a lot easier for kids to hide vapes than it is to hide cigarettes and lighters.

satnav wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:22 pm The main problem with Sunak's smoking policies is that it is focussed on the age of when you can buy cigarettes. If parents or older siblings buy the cigarettes young people will still be able to smoke. Surely there also needs to be more done to educate children about the damage that tobacco can do to your health.

At one time schools spent a lot of time teaching about the dangers in smoking but in recent years I've seen very few anti-smoking initiatives in schools. At the moment in schools the biggest problem seems to be with vaping. It is a lot easier for kids to hide vapes than it is to hide cigarettes and lighters.

We have progressed a little way.

Not many years back, FOREST "Voice and friend of the smoker" had stalls at the Tory fringe with plenty of ministers on the payroll.

These days "Voice of the smoker" conjures images of Marge Simpson's sisters.

kreuzberger wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 10:11 pm In a country which, due to climate change, a decent bottle of fizz can be produced, an allotment full of tobacco will be child's play.

No law against growing tobacco or brewing for personal consumption. Number of teens who do is miniscule.

satnav wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:22 pm The main problem with Sunak's smoking policies is that it is focussed on the age of when you can buy cigarettes. If parents or older siblings buy the cigarettes young people will still be able to smoke. Surely there also needs to be more done to educate children about the damage that tobacco can do to your health.

At one time schools spent a lot of time teaching about the dangers in smoking but in recent years I've seen very few anti-smoking initiatives in schools. At the moment in schools the biggest problem seems to be with vaping. It is a lot easier for kids to hide vapes than it is to hide cigarettes and lighters.

Whacking the price up to £13 a packet seems to have made an impact.

satnav wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:22 pm Surely there also needs to be more done to educate children about the damage that tobacco can do to your health.

At one time schools spent a lot of time teaching about the dangers in smoking but in recent years I've seen very few anti-smoking initiatives in schools. At the moment in schools the biggest problem seems to be with vaping. It is a lot easier for kids to hide vapes than it is to hide cigarettes and lighters.

That’s a great pity, tackling addiction should always be a quiver full of arrows; regulation, education and safer alternatives. My own experience of anti smoking propaganda is emphasising the many benefits of quitting is far more effective than showing premature death and health misery that we already know about, awaiting smokers.
I’m now on week 10 of smoking nothing and is the most successful attempt ever to quit.

My partner pointed out that 3 packs of tabs equalled one new kit from Games Workshop. That worked quite well.

30 years ago my old boss quit smoking. His technique was to calculate how much per month he spent on fags and put it in a new savings account which was ring-fenced for "fun stuff" - holidays, hobbies, days out etc and couldn't be used for bills, the kids and general household running costs. He carried his Abbey National passbook everywhere with him and, every time he wanted a fag he'd get it out and look at his balance until the craving went away. Worked for him.

Unexpected trigger made me quit. Bad day, couldn’t wait to get out the car with the shopping and suddenly realised I had no tobacco. Fuck going back to the shop and got the nico gum out that evening. And that was that.

Very expensive flip-flops for Ricky Shortpants, please.

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/no ... e-27848664

The Government has U-turned on its commitment to reopen the Leamside railway line, just 24 hours after making the massive announcement.

A restoration of the mothballed line, which runs from Pelaw in Gateshead to Tursdale in County Durham, was included in initial announcements about the ‘Network North’ programme revealed by Rishi Sunak on Wednesday. The Prime Minister pledged to invest in hundreds of transport projects around the North and Midlands, using £36bn he says will be saved by scrapping the northern leg of HS2.

But, just a day later, all reference to reopening the Leamside Line has been removed from the Network North website and the promise seemingly abandoned. Speaking to the Local Democracy Reporting Service on Thursday lunchtime, roads minister Richard Holden confirmed that the Government was simply “committed to looking into” the Leamside Line project.

Well, objectively, with his party consistently trailing by 20 points in every poll, I suppose that Sunak really had to try something off the wall such as claiming that even though the party he leads has been in government for the past 13 years and is responsible for literally everything having turned to shite, in fact every government since Thatcher has been utterly crap, and that he is now the man to vote for to change stuff, spend loadsa cash on infrastructure in the north of England (except HS2), improve education, stop folk dying of smoking related disease, and suddenly be competent, honest, non-corrupt, professional, and give everybody a free choc-ice(or something).

So you can’t blame him for trying. Well, you can. It truly is absolutely desperate, desperate stuff. And it’s obviously not going to work.

Just call the fucking election, you jug-eared cunt.