Mailwatch(ed) Forum

soulboy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2026 1:22 pm

Oboogie wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2026 12:59 pm

Crabcakes wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2026 12:00 pm I mean, not doing a deal = good. Not doing a deal because you’re trying to make out you’re *more* hardline than the hardline headbanger party who take on your headbanger rejects (and thus risking losing any moderate types you may still be clinging on to) = bewildering.

The Tories have a Nazi, do Reform have a Nazi? I think Badenoch might have just won the "Who's most hardline" willy waving contest.

34 former pupils of Dulwich College would suggest they do.

True but has Farage ever been a member of an overtly Nazi organisation?
Has he gone on the record saying Hitler was right that the white race is under attack from Judeo Bolshevism?
Has he ever given Nazi salutes from the dock?
I think there's a difference.

Well, I’d suggest that the difference might be that Farage learned early on that too overt an expression of his racist, anti-semitic, and far-right adjacent views could be detrimental to the success of his grifting operation, in a way that Bonehill-Paine never did, and his claims to have been reformed and “de-radicalised” notwithstanding, probably still hasn’t.

Abernathy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2026 2:13 pm Well, I’d suggest that while Farage learned early on that too overt an expression of his racist, anti-semitic, and far-right adjacent views could be detrimental to the success of his grifting operation, in a way that Bonehill-Paine never did, and his claims to have been reformed and “de-radicalised” notwithstanding, probably still hasn’t.

Well yes, but we have an underlying problem of trying to know what is actually in someone else's head.
On the one hand we have Farage who we've been told was a Nazi at school but who has never admitted it and has never been a member of a Nazi organisation.
On the other we have Bonehill who told us he was a Nazi, organised a Nazi rally to "reclaim Golders Green for the white race" attempted to found a Nazi movement, was convicted for persecuting Jews and Muslims in the name of defending the white race from "JudeoBolshevism".
Now he says he's reformed (pardon the pun).

Which aspects of either man's CV we choose to believe were sincere beliefs and which were calculated grifts is up to us, they're both bullshitters and I don't trust either of them, but the evidence against Bonehill (multiple recent convictions) is far more compelling.

Agreed.