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Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 11:13 pm
by safe_timber_man
I get you.

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 11:15 pm
by Youngian
Abernathy wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:13 pm
Youngian wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 6:54 pm Whatever we may think of Galloway, the battering of the Workers Party canvasser was outrageous.
Could you expand on this, Ian ? I’m somewhat unaware.
This may have been some kind of private beef to explain the lack of interest in this attack
A Workers Party of Britain candidate said he was "fearful for his life" after his son was attacked while canvassing for him.
Wajad Burkey, the party’s general election candidate for Sutton Coldfield, said his son had a head injury after being "beaten up" and was being treated in hospital. He has suspended his campaign.
A group of about eight people arrived on motorbikes and cars before attacking a victim with a baseball bat, West Midlands Police said.
A knife was also produced during the attack, the force added. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crgrwdex9zzo

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 11:17 pm
by Youngian
A bad election for anti-vax loons
Bridgen’s campaign video is priceless

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 7:07 am
by Killer Whale
Did they get AI to write that?
Would have been great if he was running for the US presidency.

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 12:14 pm
by Youngian
Would have been great if he was running for the US presidency.
Would if it’s 30 seconds long instead of 70s prog rock length.

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 12:27 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Still looking at results. The Tories lost both Sutton seats by quite a margin. Plenty of Labour votes for Lib Dems to squeeze next time. And chief Nimbyist Theresa Villiers lost. Encouragingly, the new MP, Dan Tomlinson, has already been on Twitter saying "No, I'm not going to be a nimby".

My prediction is that the Tories, simply by being back in Opposition, will get some Reform votes back they'll be useful to them. And they'll obviously do better in the "Blue Wall" overall. But the Lib Dems look like they could in for a while.

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 4:08 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Terrifying. How Shabana and Rushanara haven't cashed in their chips and retired somewhere far away, I don't know.

And there are people who deny that we need something like Prevent.


Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 4:13 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Interesting. Seems like there was an "it's in the bag anyway" factor, at least in the last few days. Even so, that still doesn't get Labour up to a great vote share.


Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 4:47 pm
by davidjay
Youngian wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 4:46 pm
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 11:28 am This crank was nearly an MP. He's got MP in his Twitter name even if he lost. Predictably amplified by 5 Pillars.


Is Mr McIntyre a white bloke cosplaying like Spike Milligan in a turban?
Basically, yes. It's no surprise that many people though he was Asian.

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 5:00 pm
by Abernathy
You don’t “win the count”. You win the election.

Fucking idiot.

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 7:21 pm
by slilley
Abernathy wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 5:00 pm You don’t “win the count”. You win the election.

Fucking idiot.
A postal vote is a vote just like one cast in person on the day. Of equal value. All votes are counted on the night, so a win is a win. There is not a consolation prize for getting the most in person votes. the key for any party to is to maximise their vote whether it is cast in person, by post, or by proxy. If you dont do thhat you lose. Not hard is it?

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 8:25 pm
by satnav
I think Lee Anderson was planning to blame postal voting fraud if he had lost his seat in Sutton-In-Ashfield. I was out in a restaurant in his constituency last night and the people on the table next to us were going on about how easy it would be to rig the system. One of then had been told that lots of postal votes had arrived from nearby Mansfield. I'm no expert but I would guess that Mansfield is probably the local sorting office for the constituency but I don't suppose his supporters let the facts get in the way of a conspiracy theory.

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 10:23 pm
by Abernathy
Donald Trump also pointed to the arrival of several postal votes (postal voting having been actively encouraged because of Covid 19) as “evidence” that the election was rigged against him.

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 8:36 am
by RedSparrows
As I recall Trump couldn't grasp the fact that an early surge for him did not mean he won the election. Somehow his useless brain believed that because his numbers were ahead at one point, they always would be. Postal voting contributed to the shift.

But we shouldn't expect consistency or comprehension from Trump.

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 9:58 am
by Andy McDandy
Yes, he seemed to think that it was a bit like the stock market - wait for the opportune moment and shout "Sell!" (or "Stop!").

Otherwise the postal votes 'debate' seems to be the usual thinly veiled racism - oh, how do you know it's from so-and-so, how do you tell them apart, twenty to a room, the dirty buggers, all using the same passport, of course it's the man who tells them all what to do....

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 11:17 am
by Bones McCoy
Thank Baron Samedi that we're rid of the talking pustule Bridgen.

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 11:59 am
by Tubby Isaacs
Don't know how seriously to take this.

Looks plausible from places I know a bit. Eg Labour won Lydney and Cinderford in the Forest of Dean, and lost villages.

Anyway, enjoy yourselves.


Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 12:11 pm
by Bones McCoy
It's all a bit Cecil Rhodes with his "Cairo to the Cape" ambitions.

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 12:15 pm
by Killer Whale
What's the modelling? It doesn't seem to want to admit how it has been worked out. Presumably, they've looked at demographic profiles of voters combined with census profiles of wards. That would account for, say isolated reform wards in the deprived parts of central Wales towns, I suppose (Aber Penparcau, Llandrindod North).

I don't think it's to be taken too seriously, though, having seen the sampling around Carmarthen town during the count.

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 4:22 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
I have had this brought to my attention.
This gentleman came 10th out of 1o, with 98 votes...

https://electionleaflets.org/leaflets/20427/

Have a read...