[davidjay]

Ditto the police.

Fargle's SA will have seen the police as the enemy from the first football match they attended.

Yes, but police who may have harboured some sympathetic views when the targets were Muslims and migrant hotels, may feel differently now they are the target.

That's a good point.

[satnav]

Last week many right wing politicians and commentators were losing their shit because a jury failed to find two Muslim men guilty of assaulting police officers at Manchester airport. Today those same politicians and commentators are praising the thugs who marched in Southampton last night and assaulted 11 police officers.

There are also plenty of Reform politician posting pictures of themselves taking a knee for Henry Nowak. These are the same politicians who used to claim that taking the knew was 'woke' or an empty gesture.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Most people think that he's appalling, and this week's antics are unlikely to help with that. Longer term I think he gets stuck. The one thing that might give him a boost is an early election. Apparently lots of people think it's a good idea to chuck out Starmer and change direction massively.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Last week many right wing politicians and commentators were losing their shit because a jury failed to find two Muslim men guilty of assaulting police officers at Manchester airport. Today those same politicians and commentators are praising the thugs who marched in Southampton last night and assaulted 11 police officers.

There are also plenty of Reform politician posting pictures of themselves taking a knee for Henry Nowak. These are the same politicians who used to claim that taking the knew was 'woke' or an empty gesture.

Farage lied about the "reluctance to prosecute" these men- they were convicted two other assaults, and prosecuted twice for this assault. I reckon lots of people think they got off scott free.

[Abernathy]

True indeed, K. For Farage, and particularly with the Makerfield by-election counting down to polling day, the timing of this could not be better for him. He must think several of his Judeo-Christian cultural heritage Christmases have all arrived together. Of course he is going to exploit this tragic case for electoral advantage. He was always going to do so. Fomenting grievance, whether real or imagined, and inciting unrest and violence on the streets while standing back with his froggy hands in the air going “Just sayin’” is the entire basis of Reform and the Farage approach.

By the by, the way that Starmer handed Farage his arse at PMQs today was fucking mint. Burnham and Streeting can fuck right off as far as I’m concerned. We already have the best PM we possibly could have.

[Oboogie]

Southampton is a distraction from Farage's £5m Russian bung. The Southampton riots are his Iran war.

[Boiler]

Just don't read the comments below the YT video.

[davidjay]

Southampton is a distraction from Farage's £5m Russian bung. The Southampton riots are his Iran war.

As long as it's not his Falklands.

[Oboogie]

Southampton is a distraction from Farage's £5m Russian bung. The Southampton riots are his Iran war.

As long as it's not his Falklands.

Anecdotal I know, but I've been listening to Iain Dale's show and he's had a few Reform types calling in saying Farage has fucked up by failing to condemn the violence, their fear is it will cost them in Makerfield.

[Youngian]

By the by, the way that Starmer handed Farage his arse at PMQs today was fucking mint. Burnham and Streeting can fuck right off as far as I’m concerned.

Does Burnham's Corbyn approach to Farage (doesn't do personal as its about the ishoos) win you any new friends?
What I do know is the 'tell it like it is' brigade don't like it when you tell like it is about a cunt like Farage.

[Boiler]

Ignore the video and Maitlis in particular but the comments under this are a little disturbing, shall we say. There's some thinly-veiled threats.

This is also worth a read, and it leaves me asking "who funds these cunts?".
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... outhampton

[Bones McCoy]

Southampton is a distraction from Farage's £5m Russian bung. The Southampton riots are his Iran war.

As long as it's not his Falklands.

Anecdotal I know, but I've been listening to Iain Dale's show and he's had a few Reform types calling in saying Farage has fucked up by failing to condemn the violence, their fear is it will cost them in Makerfield.

It won't be about how this plays with folks like us.
It won't be about how this plays with the folks who attend riots.

This is about the "Reform curious" (goodness knows why) who have part digested "Failing Labour", "Broken Britain", "Give the plucky outsider a shot".

I can't get inside the heads the the reform curious, and I genuinely feel that many of them are "bears of little brain".
I'm therefore lost about what would deter them form Farage.

I'd like to think his "rap sheet of dodginess" is near enough complete that many potential voters might avoid him.

The catch with any by non-general election is the "Kick the government in the nads" voting bloc.
Reform are presently in pole position to harvest those stray votes.

[Bones McCoy]

I think we need Starmer holding the legal line - as seen above.

But we need a more concerted effort.

People who are prepared to "just ask questions" about Farage and his whole rotten edifice.
Keep his dirty laundry in the public eye 365 days of the year.

I rather hoped that Polanski might be that voice, he hasn't stepped up in a way I'd like.

Props to the Mirror for going "Very well, then - alone".

[davidjay]

A few months ago I posted something about my journey home from work, complete with delayed trains, anti-social passengers, broken paving slabs and thoughtless car drivers. In that moment I was the Reform-curious voter, totally fed up with a country where everything seems broken and nobody seems to care.

[Oboogie]

You're not alone David. There are a number of voters (the killer question is 'how many?') who feel that everything's fucked. They blame the Tories for fucking it up and Labour for either doing nothing (due to poor Labour comms) or moving too slowly.
If you don't want another Tory or Labour government, the polling is clear, Reform are the only contender. How many times have we heard "Give Nigel a try, he can't be any worse"? Gradually the evidence is piling up that "Oh yes he fucking can!".
As Bones said, the die hard cultists will stick with him whatever he does, but the grumpy floaters will be repelled.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Even before this, Farage was not very popular. Here he is losing to basically everyone who might lead Labour.

[Tubby Isaacs]

This is genuine, Otto says. Attacking the Police in the Everard case was a bit less literal than in Southampton the other night.

[Oboogie]

James O'Brien quoted that today as well, so he (or rather, his LBC team) thinks it's genuine too.

[Abernathy]

James O'Brien quoted that today as well, so he (or rather, his LBC team) thinks it's genuine too.

Well, he played a recording of Farage saying it, so I don’t think there was much doubt about its authenticity.

[Oboogie]

James O'Brien quoted that today as well, so he (or rather, his LBC team) thinks it's genuine too.

Well, he played a recording of Farage saying it, so I don’t think there was much doubt about its authenticity.

I didn't hear that bit, I was probably out of the room.