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The attack dogs have been released, going all in on the Savile smears.

After Labour's dishonest ads attacking Rishi Sunak on soft justice, case files prove it's Starmer who should be in the dock over law and order

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -dock.html

Half of which are Yewtree related, and are "person we like got charged", and several others are "case dropped as new evidence emerged". Very weak stuff.

Performing a Dan Hodges tribute act is such a low bar you can call Barry Gardiner as a witness

“Dehumanising” the Tories? They’d have to be even slightly human for that to be even possible.

I like what Barry’s saying but there’s little evidence it’s true. Especially from Corbyn’s era despite his best efforts to stick to the issues. You’re guaranteed a massive applause on QT for calling for an end to mud slinging and concentrate on policies that matter to people. That’s because people are full of shit.

Gardiner is, and always has been a tosser.

We need to crush these bastards and you won't do that with soft words and side-eye.

Youngian wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 12:26 am I like what Barry’s saying but there’s little evidence it’s true. Especially from Corbyn’s era despite his best efforts to stick to the issues. You’re guaranteed a massive applause on QT for calling for an end to mud slinging and concentrate on policies that matter to people. That’s because people are full of shit.

That's the same QT that saw its ratings spike during the expenses scandal, as audience members lined up to tell MPs how full of shit they were, that promoted populists, that embraced the trivial, and never looked back.

Malcolm Armsteen wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 12:36 am We need to crush these bastards and you won't do that with soft words and side-eye.

And keep doing it when the Tories are in opposition as political memories are very short in some heads. As they would say in Washington; a bulk order of KY jelly is needed for some prolonged ratfucking.

Youngian wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:28 am

Malcolm Armsteen wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 12:36 am We need to crush these bastards and you won't do that with soft words and side-eye.

And keep doing it when the Tories are in opposition as political memories are very short in some heads. As they would say in Washington; a bulk order of KY jelly is needed for some prolonged ratfucking.

Short memories indeed.
You'd think Zahawi never existed if you read the red-tops.

Starmer's pissed off James Whale

The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 8:42 pm Starmer's pissed off James Whale

Uphill both ways ...

War on woke boilers

I see one of our number has already spotted this chap BTL, one of my least favourite online leftists.

Rich people of course all live in drafty old houses, where they've never had insulation done. I'll take a wild guess that the few people living in baronial castles aren't going to get an offer of completely free insulation on the government- it is possible to take distributional effects into consideration. And anyway, don't the Greens support insulation?

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 4:05 pm I see one of our number has already spotted this chap BTL, one of my least favourite online leftists.

Rich people of course all live in drafty old houses, where they've never had insulation done. I'll take a wild guess that the few people living in baronial castles aren't going to get an offer of completely free insulation on the government- it is possible to take distributional effects into consideration. And anyway, don't the Greens support insulation?

Yeah it's actually quite extraordinary that Labour's policy of insulating 4 million homes has been all but been ignored.

People don't want warmer homes and cheaper fuel bills; they want international socialism.

Apparently the other comment I’ve seen on these small policy announcements is it’s got nothing to do with local councils.

Of course getting every kid to do Maths up to 18 is.

Yeah. I saw that one. Someone from the Government will pop up on election night to say how sad it was that national issues "intruded".

This is really disappointing from Starmer on PR. Hope there’s a change of direction - voluntary, but forced by a vote if needed - once in office.

PR is the only way to stop another Tory 10-year block and shift the Overton window in the U.K. back in the direction that better reflects the majority of this country’s real politics rather than the charade of pandering to a right-wing minority because of the absurdities of FPTP.

https://bylinetimes.com/2023/04/27/keir ... reformers/

the charade of pandering to a right-wing minority because of the absurdities of FPTP.

Is the narrative to combat: ‘This loser doesn’t think he can win under the present system so I’m not voting for a loser?’
Any announcement Starmer makes is about crafty tactical advantage so little point in dissecting the content. Don’t see he has any choice under FPTP.

very hard to see how Starmer could back PR if he wants to win the election.