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Victoria Prentis is MP for Banbury, where she has a lead of 26.7% over Labour, who are in a clear second place. There's likely a few more citizens of nowhere round there than before. Stranger things have happened than the Tories losing a seat like this.

If this is carried with a confidence vote, it gets blocked in the Lords anyway. What happens next? Probably an election on "Who Governs?", on current form.

"Rwandan Government saw us coming" latest.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 10:33 pm "Rwandan Government saw us coming" latest.

I'm sure the "Taxpayers Alliance" will be all over this one.

You may remember crime drama "The Long Firm", starring Mark Strong, from a few years back.

In one episode his character sinks a huge amount of money into "Starksville", a property development scheme in Nigeria. On going out to try to recover his cash, he receives two great "reasons why you suck" speeches - one from the conman, one from the government official trying to sort it all out. The latter delivered by the great George Harris, ending with "Now fuck off back to your tired little island".

Seems rather topical.

So it is now looking like three million quid a head to deport desperate, desolate people. That's mere loose change for the PM. But still.

If they pass their refugee assessment, they remain in Rwanda.

If they fail, Rwanda has the right to deport them - to the UK.


Proper Humpty Dumpty stuff.

Or 100 million per Tory home secretary.

To be honest, if Dr Evil kidnapped any of them and asked for that as a ransom, I'd be inclined to tell him to stuff it.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 10:33 pm "Rwandan Government saw us coming" latest.

I’m starting to think this scheme came about when either Sunak or Braverman initially got an email starting “Dear blessed friend, I write to you concerning the estate of MR PATIENCE NGAMBE who has left the sum of $NINETTY-SIX BAJILLION DOLLARS US in his account after dying in an accident with no children or will…”

Just the 29.9% swing in Harpenden Rural then. There are 2 other Harpenden wards which I presume from the names have the more built up bits of Harpenden in (which isn't saying much).

In the interests of transparency, they did hold (with a small swing in their favour, albeit from 2022 when they did badly) a ward in Bromley At this rate, they'll hold the crucial marginal seat that is Beckenham.

It wasn't me, it was that incompetent I sacked. This unlikely to improve his fortunes.

No 10 says Suella Braverman, not Rishi Sunak, signed off on extra £100m payment to Rwanda
Downing Street has signalled that Suella Braverman, the former home secretary, was responsible for the decision to approve an extra £100m payment to Rwanda this year.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... government

Marina Hyde aims her hose of satire.

The government may not say it out loud, but the reason it has chosen Rwanda as the deterrent is because it thinks it sounds like a place no one in their right mind would want to go to. That may be completely unfair – but the unfairness is irrelevant. The view of Rwanda is inseparable from the explicit idea that it is a deterrent.

There are a lot of sledgehammer ironies to Rishi Sunak’s bizarre sense that he is some kind of beacon to the nation, as our country is to the world.

The crucial thing - it's not about Arsenal shirts or safari holidays. How the place treats rich western tourists has nothing to do with the way it treats refugees.

As for what’s next, it says something about Rishi Sunak’s upcoming week that his appearance before the Covid inquiry on Monday might be the nice bit of it. Tuesday will see MPs vote on the Rwanda bill, while the Tory party chairman has already found himself warning his parliamentary colleagues against the “insanity” of forcing another leadership contest. Yup, fire up your thousand-yard stare. We already know they’re regicidal maniacs. The question is: are they mad enough to do it again before the next election?

They really might have to change leader again.

The Reform vote looks too high though. No way they'll get more votes than the Lib Dems.

A lower Reform vote here. But no higher a Tory vote.

So announcement full of holes rushed through to keep onside a minister who few of the public know who then resigns anyway.

Sunak showing again he's about as heavyweight as a bowl of Angel Delight.

That policy was the most disgusting thing this lot have put forward it sounded like something made up on the fly to be fair.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 3:11 pm They really might have to change leader again.

The Reform vote looks too high though. No way they'll get more votes than the Lib Dems.

I think you’ll find that reform won’t go to the Tories or not on any scale, like if you saying you’ll vote reform at this point you’ll either vote for them or not vote.

Remember councils in Thanet and Tamworth shift it was UKIP cutting into Labour vote that then shifted back in May and in the by election.

I think a sounding will be taken within the party after Richie Rich’s appearance at the covid inquiry, depends if he drops everyone else in the shit, or is made to look a complete incompetent and carry the can for everything that went wrong, either way could give the ammunition the malcontents need

mattomac wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 12:02 am That policy was the most disgusting thing this lot have put forward it sounded like something made up on the fly to be fair.

Can you narrow it down a bit, please?