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Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2026 5:38 am
by Boiler
davidjay wrote: Fri Jan 16, 2026 12:39 am
Boiler wrote: Wed Jan 14, 2026 1:35 pm When my sister and her husband last visited the US, it was a topic of conversation with the locals that they'd visited more states than any of the people they spoke to.
To paraphrase Bill Bryson, an American will drive further for a taco than an Englishman will to go on holiday.
Eh? I'm confused.

Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2026 5:38 am
by Boiler

Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2026 7:19 am
by Youngian
Boiler wrote: Fri Jan 16, 2026 5:38 am
davidjay wrote: Fri Jan 16, 2026 12:39 am
Boiler wrote: Wed Jan 14, 2026 1:35 pm When my sister and her husband last visited the US, it was a topic of conversation with the locals that they'd visited more states than any of the people they spoke to.
To paraphrase Bill Bryson, an American will drive further for a taco than an Englishman will to go on holiday.
Eh? I'm confused.
What's confusing? The point being made is Americans are used to driving longer distances.

Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2026 9:22 am
by Malcolm Armsteen
Youngian wrote: Fri Jan 16, 2026 7:19 am
Boiler wrote: Fri Jan 16, 2026 5:38 am
davidjay wrote: Fri Jan 16, 2026 12:39 am

To paraphrase Bill Bryson, an American will drive further for a taco than an Englishman will to go on holiday.
Eh? I'm confused.
What's confusing? The point being made is Americans are used to driving longer distances.
Only on a superficial reading.

Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2026 10:34 am
by Andy McDandy
Boiler wrote: Fri Jan 16, 2026 5:38 am Birds of a feather?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2w94wp4p1o
It's the bloody throne room scene from Flash Gordon, isn't it? "Glorious emperor, I offer this treasure of our peoples in tribute to you after you graciously blasted half our people into oblivion...".

Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2026 10:34 am
by Boiler
Youngian wrote: Fri Jan 16, 2026 7:19 am
Boiler wrote: Fri Jan 16, 2026 5:38 am
davidjay wrote: Fri Jan 16, 2026 12:39 am

To paraphrase Bill Bryson, an American will drive further for a taco than an Englishman will to go on holiday.
Eh? I'm confused.
What's confusing? The point being made is Americans are used to driving longer distances.
And the point I was making is that my sister and her husband - both UK citizens - have visited nearly forty states, whilst most Americans rarely venture outside the state they live in.

Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2026 10:59 am
by mattomac
Andy McDandy wrote: Fri Jan 16, 2026 10:34 am
Boiler wrote: Fri Jan 16, 2026 5:38 am Birds of a feather?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2w94wp4p1o
It's the bloody throne room scene from Flash Gordon, isn't it? "Glorious emperor, I offer this treasure of our peoples in tribute to you after you graciously blasted half our people into oblivion...".
And he still won't make her president.

Utterly desperate, hes got a couple of months to somehow force this Greenland thing through, unless by doing so he can then claim elections are cancelled. Of course Reform won't mind about those elections, only the ones in Plymouth that are utterly pointless because A) they will be null and void within a year and B ) Because it elects in thirds Labour would still hold the council.

Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2026 11:02 am
by Bones McCoy
Boiler wrote: Fri Jan 16, 2026 5:38 am Birds of a feather?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2w94wp4p1o
Ohh for fuck's sake.

It's even worse than Baron Ashcroft's collection of Victoria Crosses.

Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2026 11:18 am
by Watchman
Boiler wrote: Fri Jan 16, 2026 5:38 am Birds of a feather?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2w94wp4p1o
In the words of the immortal Jim Bowen…
“Let’s look at what you could have won”

Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2026 2:18 pm
by AOB
Any chance of the Democrats getting their shit together and sorting a proper candidate out for 2028? Or are they just going to hope to win by virtue of people having had enough of Trump again? They need to do what the Republicans did with Trump, just pay lip service to the primaries and all that nonsense, all that wasted energy arguing amongst themselves (voters too) and just sort out one candidate they will back all the way.

Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2026 2:41 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
American politics doesn’t really have opposition leaders in the way we do. Trump was much closer to that than usually happens, but even he wasn’t “LOTO” until Ron De Santis had crashed and burned.

Even the congressional leaders aren’t really like that. They’re focused on maximising seats in the mid terms. Schumer in particular can seem underwhelming, but he’ll be judged later this year.

In terms of taking the fight to Trump, that really is something separate. Can be non-leader congressional politicians like AOC, state governors like Gavin Newsom, or even “surrogates”, people who put a party’s point of view In the media, but haven’t even contested an election for town dog catcher, and never will.

All these people may contest the Democratic nomination, but there aren’t usually front runners at this stage. Name recognition seems to be more of a thing in the US than here, but equally you’d just get lined up by the opposition if you were heir apparent now.

Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2026 3:40 pm
by Boiler
AOB wrote: Fri Jan 16, 2026 2:18 pm Any chance of the Democrats getting their shit together and sorting a proper candidate out for 2028? Or are they just going to hope to win by virtue of people having had enough of Trump again? They need to do what the Republicans did with Trump, just pay lip service to the primaries and all that nonsense, all that wasted energy arguing amongst themselves (voters too) and just sort out one candidate they will back all the way.
They seem to be sitting with their thumbs up their collective arseholes and just hoping that people will drift to them. But right now, chocolate fireguards are more use than Democrat politicians.

Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2026 3:44 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Fri Jan 16, 2026 2:41 pm American politics doesn’t really have opposition leaders in the way we do. Trump was much closer to that than usually happens, but even he wasn’t “LOTO” until Ron De Santis had crashed and burned.

Even the congressional leaders aren’t really like that. They’re focused on maximising seats in the mid terms. Schumer in particular can seem underwhelming, but he’ll be judged later this year.

In terms of taking the fight to Trump, that really is something separate. Can be non-leader congressional politicians like AOC, state governors like Gavin Newsom, or even “surrogates”, people who put a party’s point of view In the media, but haven’t even contested an election for town dog catcher, and never will.

All these people may contest the Democratic nomination, but there aren’t usually front runners at this stage. Name recognition seems to be more of a thing in the US than here, but equally you’d just get lined up by the opposition if you were heir apparent now.
Also they don't control either branch of Congress.

Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2026 3:59 pm
by mattomac
I don't think the Democrats can do much bar unless you are the likes of Newsom, I think Trump recognised that (or someone did), why agitate a potential opponent. Interesting that the Democrat social media is going quite aggressive to be honest, but as others have said there is no real figurehead bar the likes of Newsom and really only feature if Trump engages with them.

Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2026 4:28 pm
by Bones McCoy
What's that you're saying, "pro-life" party?


Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2026 4:35 pm
by Boiler

Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2026 4:53 pm
by Abernathy
Ech. That is chilling. And meant to be - because it’s accurate.

Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2026 4:56 pm
by Boiler
Disturbingly accurate.

Assuming Nature doesn't do the honours first, what would it take to implement the 25th or just impeach the cunt? Or are those tools useless too now?

Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2026 5:24 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Republicans won’t convict him.

Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2026 5:29 pm
by Spoonman
Abernathy wrote: Fri Jan 16, 2026 4:53 pm Ech. That is chilling. And meant to be - because it’s accurate.
Worth noting that those shouting "Just comply" today are the same ones that were shouting "DEFY!" around five years ago at the height of COVID-19.