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Re: Sundry straight talkers

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:21 am
by Malcolm Armsteen
Not to mention West Side Story.

But those are modern adaptations, not anti-woke bowdlerisations.

Re: Sundry straight talkers

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 8:54 am
by Andy McDandy
Funny thing was that even Shakespeare himself was at it. The original Amleth was closer in tone to Arnie's spoof Hamlet in Last Action Hero ("Hey Claudius, you killed my fadda! Big mistake!" etc).

Re: Sundry straight talkers

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 9:26 am
by Bones McCoy
Youngian wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 2:09 am
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 11:05 am Is anybody proposing rewriting Shakespeare plays?
No substitute for Hamlet in the original Klingon. Film makers have always been at it. Kurosawa is top of the tree with Throne of Blood (Macbeth) and Ran (Lear).
The like was for Kurosawa, not Klingon.

Re: Sundry straight talkers

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 11:52 am
by Samanfur
Andy McDandy wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 8:54 am Funny thing was that even Shakespeare himself was at it. The original Amleth was closer in tone to Arnie's spoof Hamlet in Last Action Hero ("Hey Claudius, you killed my fadda! Big mistake!" etc).
I introduced a certain Shakespeare-directing mutual friend of ours to that, during the first lockdown. Hilarity ensued, and it wouldn't surprise me if we see it staged at some point, once the theatres're back to normal.

Re: Sundry straight talkers

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 4:51 pm
by mattomac
Andy McDandy wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 11:55 am There's a pretty good book on him by Emma Smith of Oxford University called "This is Shakespeare", which has a really quite brilliant analysis of why his popularity has never waned, and why the arguments about keeping him "anti-woke" are bollocks.

If you read pretty much any film or play script, you'll be struck by the detail that goes into set directions, descriptions of decor, costume, characters and so on. Not Shakespeare - all you get is enter and exit (bears optional) and occasional references to props, mostly delivered through dialogue. There is no set direction saying a dagger hangs in the air in front of Macbeth - all we know is that he can see one.

Smith describes this as being "in the gaps" - there's no detail given on how any line should be delivered, how a character should look, everything is open to interpretation.

That gives directors tremendous flexibility when it comes to staging his works. Set them whenever you like, wherever you like. Play around with genders, ages, ethnicities, whatever. It truly is universal in a way that many of his contemporaries just aren't.
Did wonder about this book, was keen to read so thank you for going into it a bit.

Re: Sundry straight talkers

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 7:03 pm
by Oboogie
Youngian wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 10:08 am
Bones McCoy wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 9:59 am I think this belongs here:

Dean is either a tin eared US or Russian bot’s impression of the English bloke down the pub or a sad twisted loser camped in his mum’s basement who yearns to be one of Tommah’s lads.
Dean certainly knows very little about The Jam if he thinks Paul Weller was on his side.

Re: Sundry straight talkers

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 8:22 pm
by davidjay
One thing social media has taught me is the number of right-wingers who love left-wing bands. One of the biggest racists I know has a Facebook page full of Clash videos.

Re: Sundry straight talkers

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 9:25 pm
by Boiler
Oboogie wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 7:03 pm Dean certainly knows very little about The Jam if he thinks Paul Weller was on his side.
They smelt of pubs
And Wormwood Scrubs
And too many right-wing meetings


C'mon, he's a racist. They're rarely blessed with brains, are they?

Re: Sundry straight talkers

Posted: Sun May 30, 2021 5:56 pm
by Bones McCoy
DisKusturd that traytur PM got married in a mosk!!

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Re: Sundry straight talkers

Posted: Sun May 30, 2021 5:57 pm
by Bones McCoy
The (Half of Glasgow) version.

Ragin' that the fenian PM got married in chapel.

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Re: Sundry straight talkers

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:06 pm
by Nigredo
Boiler wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 9:25 pm
Oboogie wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 7:03 pm Dean certainly knows very little about The Jam if he thinks Paul Weller was on his side.
They smelt of pubs
And Wormwood Scrubs
And too many right-wing meetings


C'mon, he's a racist. They're rarely blessed with brains, are they?
Horrible flashbacks to when The Gammon Robot was trying to pass off Eton Rifles as his favourite tune :shock:

Re: Sundry straight talkers

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:27 pm
by Andy McDandy
Would have thought Swords of a Thousand Men would have been more suitable. Shouty song, video full of posh lads smashing up a banquet.

I mean, you can just picture him, can't you? Him and his tossy teenage mates bellowing "Eton Rifles, Eton Rifles!"and thinking it's all about them.

Re: Sundry straight talkers

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:35 pm
by Youngian
That’s Galloway’s RT discussion show sorted this week


Re: Sundry straight talkers

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 6:34 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
If I was on Twitter, I'd see how quickly I could make Frankie say "the real issues".

Re: Sundry straight talkers

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:58 pm
by Watchman
https://m.facebook.com/lotuseatersdotcom/

Came across these two bedwetters the other day

Re: Sundry straight talkers

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:09 pm
by Bones McCoy
Today the're hashtagging about Boycott Costa.


So now you know where all the gobshites arent.

Re: Sundry straight talkers

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:57 pm
by Bones McCoy
Bones McCoy wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:09 pm Today the're hashtagging about Boycott Costa.


So now you know where all the gobshites arent.



This and the RNLI culture-war are evidence that the cunt farm gatekeepers are still on furlough.

Re: Sundry straight talkers

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:23 am
by Youngian
Digby Jones and Stephen Fry demonstrating the difference between posh and clever.

Re: Sundry straight talkers

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:46 am
by Bones McCoy
Youngian wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:23 am Digby Jones and Stephen Fry demonstrating the difference between posh and clever.
Digby, the biggest twat in the world.

Re: Sundry straight talkers

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2021 1:16 pm
by Watchman
What’s Digby’s view on Pritti Vacant’s elocution efforts?