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Fargle is younger than Brad Pitt. Old bigot Len Goodman was the same age as Bowie. Nigella Lawson is the same age as Gillian McKeith.

The happy thoughts theory has some plausibility.

Bones McCoy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:36 pm If you're nostalgiing about Spitfires, newsreaders in Bow Ties and digging for Victory, you're recycling tropes of one or two generations before.

The late 70s saw the decline of WWII war comics, TV series and movies but until then, post war popular culture in Britain was saturated with patting itself on the back for defeating the Hun single handedly. If you’re only 60 this year, this cult would have still permeated your childhood more than Velvet Underground.

Rishi's tragical mystery tour took him to Buxton . With large parts of the East Midlands hit by flooding Rishi goes to one of the few towns in the East Midlands that is never likely to be affected by flooding. When a journalist asked him why he had not visited any of the flooded areas in the East Midlands he simply said he had spoken to people in those areas. I seem to remember that this is how Boris Johnson reacted when there were really bad floods just before Covid. It is difficult to tell whether he doesn't care about the victims or that he is worried about facing up to the realities of climate change.

satnav wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 7:30 pm It is difficult to tell whether he doesn't care about the victims or that he is worried about facing up to the realities of climate change.

Could well be both.

You're not going to see him anywhere between now and the election where he might be unpopular. Which means nowhere in public.

Abernathy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 8:01 pm

satnav wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 7:30 pm It is difficult to tell whether he doesn't care about the victims or that he is worried about facing up to the realities of climate change.

Could well be both.

The one because of the other.

Can’t face the question on how his party has fucked up environmental controls

I think that is the issue. The first time a journalists asks him if climate change is to blame for flooding he's screwed. If he denies that climate change is to blame he looks like an idiot and if he says yes all the climate change deniers in his party will attack him.

satnav wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:46 pm I think that is the issue. The first time a journalists asks him if climate change is to blame for flooding he's screwed. If he denies that climate change is to blame he looks like an idiot and if he says yes all the climate change deniers in his party will attack him.

And he hasn't got the political acumen to give a non-committal answer.

satnav wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 7:30 pm Rishi's tragical mystery tour took him to Buxton . With large parts of the East Midlands hit by flooding Rishi goes to one of the few towns in the East Midlands that is never likely to be affected by flooding. When a journalist asked him why he had not visited any of the flooded areas in the East Midlands he simply said he had spoken to people in those areas. I seem to remember that this is how Boris Johnson reacted when there were really bad floods just before Covid. It is difficult to tell whether he doesn't care about the victims or that he is worried about facing up to the realities of climate change.

When you're five foot five, you don't want to fuck about in floodwater.

Let's not beat about the bush, here. Sunak is SHITE.

Man's a cunt.
Cross-eyed, lisping, ugly cunt.

At least, if he does visit a flood site, he’d never get the bottom of his trousers wet

It is a simple decision for Sunak.

"Are the wife's family in the buckets and mops business, yes or no?"

No, but they will be in about half an hour

Youngian wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 7:01 pm

Bones McCoy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:36 pm If you're nostalgiing about Spitfires, newsreaders in Bow Ties and digging for Victory, you're recycling tropes of one or two generations before.

The late 70s saw the decline of WWII war comics, TV series and movies but until then, post war popular culture in Britain was saturated with patting itself on the back for defeating the Hun single handedly. If you’re only 60 this year, this cult would have still permeated your childhood more than Velvet Underground.

Indeed, but these were memories (and achievements) of past generations.
Some kids spent pocket money on Commando comics, some on 2000AD and others on the New Musical Express.

When I was a kid, if you wanted to know about the war you asked your dad or one of your uncles.

Having done so I always viewed the 'war comics' with some disgust.

Malcolm Armsteen wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 11:59 am When I was a kid, if you wanted to know about the war you asked your dad or one of your uncles.

Having done so I always viewed the 'war comics' with some disgust.

Being slightly younger, I used watching The World at War to give me my basic grounding in the events. My parents were children during the war and had mixed experiences, my father evacuated to several locations and did not have a pleasent time, my mother stayed put and apart from being close to a V2 dropping in January 1945 survived unscathed.My only surving Grandpa was the local ARP warden (he was in a reserved occupation) and had to identify the recovered bodies and so never really talked about the war except in very general terms until some 40 years later when the local newspaper, which he had printed every week, ran a story on what happened. It was the first tme me and my cousin heard what happened.

As for those much younger than me who wrap themselves in Blitz spirit and Actung Spitfuer, it is clear they have very little knowledge of what actually happened and how whilst the country did pull together in a collective effort, those that had some money could keep themselves more comfortable than those who did not.

They also forget when they bang on about getting rid of the ECHR that the Charter was drafted by Sir David Maxwell-Ffyfe, a Conservative Attorney-General ( in the days when it was treated as the office it is the Government's chief lawyer) a Conservative Home Secretary, and then when he became Lord Kilmuir a Conservative Lord Chancellor. Sir david was part of Sir Hartley Shawcross's teamwho prosecuted at Nuremburg.

It is interesting that education policy from this government has reduced the learning of history to being able to recite by rote the monarchs of this country and has done away with researching what happened and more importantly why it happened.

Yet it’s easy to change the law re flights to Rwanda

BBC News: Post Office scandal: Rishi Sunak considers measures to clear all victims

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67905194

Hitchens was weighing in on it today as well. Lots of sympathy, but as my dad was fond of saying, it's next to syphilis in the dictionary and about as much use.

I suspect what will happen is nothing, a few slapped wrists and some remorseful statements. Because as Brian Reade said in yesterday's Mirror, this is a failure of the system, and you can't have faith in the system shaken too much.