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Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2026 6:21 pm
by Bones McCoy

Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2026 6:36 pm
by Samanfur
Funnily enough, I was listening to that a couple of days ago. I fell down an audio rabbit hole after being earwormed by this:


Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2026 8:35 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Today marks the 40th anniversary of the Challenger disaster, it got me thinking because I looked at Reagan's speech.

https://www.reaganlibrary.gov/archives/ ... challenger
Ladies and gentlemen, I'd planned to speak to you tonight to report on the state of the Union, but the events of earlier today have led me to change those plans. Today is a day for mourning and remembering. Nancy and I are pained to the core by the tragedy of the shuttle Challenger. We know we share this pain with all of the people of our country. This is truly a national loss.

Nineteen years ago, almost to the day, we lost three astronauts in a terrible accident on the ground. But we've never lost an astronaut in flight; we've never had a tragedy like this. And perhaps we've forgotten the courage it took for the crew of the shuttle. But they, the Challenger Seven, were aware of the dangers, but overcame them and did their jobs brilliantly. We mourn seven heroes: Michael Smith, Dick Scobee, Judith Resnik, Ronald McNair, Ellison Onizuka, Gregory Jarvis, and Christa McAuliffe. We mourn their loss as a nation together.

For the families of the seven, we cannot bear, as you do, the full impact of this tragedy. But we feel the loss, and we're thinking about you so very much. Your loved ones were daring and brave, and they had that special grace, that special spirit that says, ``Give me a challenge, and I'll meet it with joy.'' They had a hunger to explore the universe and discover its truths. They wished to serve, and they did. They served all of us. We've grown used to wonders in this century. It's hard to dazzle us. But for 25 years the United States space program has been doing just that. We've grown used to the idea of space, and perhaps we forget that we've only just begun. We're still pioneers. They, the members of the Challenger crew, were pioneers.

And I want to say something to the schoolchildren of America who were watching the live coverage of the shuttle's takeoff. I know it is hard to understand, but sometimes painful things like this happen. It's all part of the process of exploration and discovery. It's all part of taking a chance and expanding man's horizons. The future doesn't belong to the fainthearted; it belongs to the brave. The Challenger crew was pulling us into the future, and we'll continue to follow them.

I've always had great faith in and respect for our space program, and what happened today does nothing to diminish it. We don't hide our space program. We don't keep secrets and cover things up. We do it all up front and in public. That's the way freedom is, and we wouldn't change it for a minute. We'll continue our quest in space. There will be more shuttle flights and more shuttle crews and, yes, more volunteers, more civilians, more teachers in space. Nothing ends here; our hopes and our journeys continue. I want to add that I wish I could talk to every man and woman who works for NASA or who worked on this mission and tell them: ``Your dedication and professionalism have moved and impressed us for decades. And we know of your anguish. We share it.''

There's a coincidence today. On this day 390 years ago, the great explorer Sir Francis Drake died aboard ship off the coast of Panama. In his lifetime the great frontiers were the oceans, and an historian later said, ``He lived by the sea, died on it, and was buried in it.'' Well, today we can say of the Challenger crew: Their dedication was, like Drake's, complete.

The crew of the space shuttle Challenger honored us by the manner in which they lived their lives. We will never forget them, nor the last time we saw them, this morning, as they prepared for their journey and waved goodbye and ``slipped the surly bonds of earth'' to ``touch the face of God.''
Now, should something happen to Artemis II, I can imagine Trump going on television and giving a speech like that.

Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2026 9:15 pm
by Boiler
Bones McCoy wrote: Wed Jan 28, 2026 6:21 pm
I suppose it's my background, but I find it strangely difficult to listen to something like this recorded with modern equipment and microphones - it just sounds "wrong" to my ears. It should sound like it would have done on a proper laminated 78...

Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 12:16 am
by Oboogie
Bruce Springsteen, still doing Woody's work...


Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 4:49 am
by Boiler
Love it, and I'm no Springsteen fan.

I'm trying to imagine Trump's inevitable childish reply on Twat Social to this.

Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 10:06 am
by Oboogie
"Bruce Springsteen, TERRIBLE MUSICIAN. A FAILED songwriter, NEVER had a hit, the most unpopular singer EVER, even though NOBODY'S ever even heard of him. It's a FACT, nobody likes him. LOSER."

Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 11:30 am
by Bones McCoy
Is that AI?
I can tell with pictures.
Some musical collages are so well done I can't tell.

Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 12:00 pm
by Oboogie
Bones McCoy wrote: Thu Jan 29, 2026 11:30 am Is that AI?
I can tell with pictures.
Some musical collages are so well done I can't tell.
It's not AI, it's out of me head.

Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 12:58 pm
by Youngian
Its a pity a 75 year old had to step up instead of a more youthful artist.

Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 1:39 pm
by Oboogie
Youngian wrote: Thu Jan 29, 2026 12:58 pm Its a pity a 75 year old had to step up instead of a more youthful artist.
Billy Bragg has done one too and he's a sprightly 68.....but that's not what you meant.
I did read that Billie Eilish (does she still count as youthful?) has spoken out about it but someone with the clout of Taylor Swift writing a song would be great.

Here's Billy's effort.

Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 1:52 pm
by Youngian
Was going to mention Billie Eillish, about time I listened to her music as she's got a big soul. And was great at Glastonbury.

Mr Bragg sounding like his yooful angry self. All for that.

Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 2:10 pm
by Bones McCoy
Youngian wrote: Thu Jan 29, 2026 12:58 pm Its a pity a 75 year old had to step up instead of a more youthful artist.
Mumford and Sons were missing in action?

Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 4:53 pm
by Boiler

Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 5:37 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Theatre? I don't doubt parts of Minneapolis are pretty rough, but that really is a massive insult to people who've been in actual wars. It's a bunch of kids playing soldiers.

Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 5:59 pm
by Abernathy
What does people spinning on you involve ?

Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 6:08 pm
by Oboogie
Abernathy wrote: Thu Jan 29, 2026 5:59 pm What does people spinning on you involve ?
Dunno, could it be a variation on 'turn on you'?

Meanwhile, there is now a video version of the Springsteen song I posted earlier...


Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 7:31 pm
by Boiler
Abernathy wrote: Thu Jan 29, 2026 5:59 pm What does people spinning on you involve ?
I think it should have been "spit on you" as several agents claim this has happened to them.

Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 7:40 pm
by Andy McDandy
Could mean giving them the finger and saying "spin on this". Also, given the involvement of many amateur theatrical groups in the protests across the USA, could be actual spinning.

Re: Trump 2.0 Lunacy

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 8:22 pm
by Oboogie
Trump has ordered the FBI to seize the ballot boxes from the 2020 election at Fulton County, Georgia.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj0ngrjy22jo