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I actually think he's got a point about that. His race hasn't been an issue at any point. Except among some of his target voters, unfortunately. But not for most people.

A few not very nice people are pointing out that Braverman said this stuff and got sacked. They have a point about his inconsistency, if little else.

Yes his speech seems to have gone down like a bowl of cold sick with most people on the right.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:49 pm I actually think he's got a point about that. His race hasn't been an issue at any point. Except among some of his target voters, unfortunately. But not for most people.

Indeed. He's not a useless Prime Minister because he's Asian. He's a useless Prime Minister because he's incompetemt.

First Jewish, first woman, first Asian PMs, sure. Tories can claim that. But they all had one thing in common: they came from a place of privilege. They were rich.

Money transcends all barriers in their books.

Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 6:07 am First Jewish, first woman, first Asian PMs, sure. Tories can claim that. But they all had one thing in common: they came from a place of privilege. They were rich.

Money transcends all barriers in their books.

And they all fucked us over

Are they claiming Disraeli as Jewish?

Sunak made the claim at PMQs.

He was of Jewish heritage, but converted to Christianity at the age of 12 (1817, baptised Anglican).
Until the Jews Relief Act of 1858 he would have found it difficult to enter parliament if he had not converted. He was elected in 1837.
The Conservatives did not support this Whig act...

satnav wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:25 pm Yes his speech seems to have gone down like a bowl of cold sick with most people on the right.

Basically the fact he referred to the Right, when everyone knows that they are the victims here, and how dare he!

Malcolm Armsteen wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:44 am He was of Jewish heritage, but converted to Christianity at the age of 12 (1817, baptised Anglican).
Until the Jews Relief Act of 1858 he would have found it difficult to enter parliament if he had not converted. He was elected in 1837.
The Conservatives did not support this Whig act...

Bit of a thorny issue, historically speaking. The German Jewish writer Joseph Roth occasionally claimed to have converted to Roman Catholicism later in life, although no definitive proof of it ever turned up.

Meanwhile…MY EYES.

Joining the CoE was like having a party card in the Soviet Union. Don’t make a fuss and just sign up if you want doors to open.

Watchman wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:14 am

satnav wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:25 pm Yes his speech seems to have gone down like a bowl of cold sick with most people on the right.

Basically the fact he referred to the Right, when everyone knows that they are the victims here, and how dare he!

All part of this great imaginary edifice that these cunts - your Bravermans, your Johnsons, your Sunaks, your Andersons, and yes, your Galloways (remember the horseshoe) have been engaged in constructing over he last 15 years or so. The rage against wokery, the alarmism about legitimate protests, the demonising of brown skinned muslims, it ‘s all part of the same fucking project. And it stinks like fucking rhinoceros shite.

Corporatism?

Sunak's got the Brains Trust on his side. I didn't see the speech but I got the impression it was about more than somebody shouting about Brexit in the background. Anyway, no reason why this couldn't have been a statement to Parliament, if there's even a policy there.

If they didn't want protesters in Downing Street perhaps it wasn't a great idea to announce the statement nearly an hour before Sunak made the speech. This gave potential protesters plenty of time to make it to Downing Street.

Didn't the Tories waste £5m setting up a briefing room especially for statements like this? a briefing room that has hardly been used since COVID.

Crikey, Sunak's genuinely done well here. Honestly.

IT WAS, the Daily Mail informed us last November, ‘a significant victory for justice and the Mail’ and ‘a major setback for Prince Harry’, but now, with a few strokes of the pen, Rishi Sunak’s Conservative government has turned that upside down.

The government decision releases a wealth of documents relating to the use of private investigators for Prince Harry, Elton John, Baroness Lawrence and others to deploy in their unprecedented legal case alleging hacking and unlawful information gathering by the Mail newspapers.


The Mail group, which desperately wanted these documents withheld, insisted that they were covered by confidentiality arrangements dating back to the 2011-12 Leveson Inquiry into the press, and in November a judge upheld that argument.

But the government had a right to waive that confidentiality and yesterday, acting on a request from the prince and the other complainants in the case, it did just that, turning that ‘significant victory for the Mail’ into what might be called a victory for the prince.

Stopped clocks twice a day, monkeys and Shakespeare.

davidjay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 12:33 am Stopped clocks twice a day, monkeys and Shakespeare.

There may be some logic to this.
Rishi, like most Tory PMs has enjoyed a gentle ride on the Mail's tides.
He may be politically naive, but even he can probably see the direction of travel.

Within 6 months, probably less, Rishi will be "Worst tory leader ever".
The mail will shoehorn him into the "woke blob" (He's wealthy and brown innit!).
Why, because they will be promoting a radical conservative alternative around the likes of Braverman, Jenrick and the other nutters.
They will want to discredit the previous administration as "not proper conservatives".
Poking about Sunak's dodgy deals will be an important part of this.

Viz, Sunak finally wants a clampdown on hacking.