Mailwatch(ed) Forum

By holding on longer, can the Tories make the country even shittier for Labour to inherit? Of course they can and there’s plenty more to be done to hand out contracts to their spivvy racist donors.

Who advised Sunak to do a photo call with a ball that he’s likely to drop? “Voters will think you’re a character like Boris, prime minister.”

Apparently Sunak has said there won’t be an election on May 2nd. So I reckon the election will be May 2nd because a 100% turnaround would absolutely be in character

Crabcakes wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 5:13 pm Apparently Sunak has said there won’t be an election on May 2nd. So I reckon the election will be May 2nd because a 100% turnaround would absolutely be in character

Yep, his assertion is literally worthless.

Sunak made it past the Ides of March.

By ruling out a May election Sunak seems to have triggered more speculation about a possible leadership. The Mail are suggesting that their is a move to replace Rishi with Penny Mordaunt. Because apparently what the country needs now is a prime minister who is good at carrying a ceremonial sword!

satnav wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2024 1:39 pm By ruling out a May election Sunak seems to have triggered more speculation about a possible leadership. The Mail are suggesting that their is a move to replace Rishi with Penny Mordaunt. Because apparently what the country needs now is a prime minister who is good at carrying a ceremonial sword!

The whispers among the wingnuts are a three stage plan.

1. Replace Sunak with Morduant.
2. Morduant loses election.
3. Wingnuts replace Morduant with Braverman / Badenoch.

Then create about 20 more nut job lords in the ensuing 2 resignation lists.
Racist donors included.

Must be the silliest idea but put it next to these tax cut plans (That won’t happen).

You can see the trajectory of collapse.

Porky Penny Pugwash would be off her nut to sup from that particular chalice. She strikes me as neither an evil person nor one for which the directorships would be awaiting in abundance.

kreuzberger wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2024 9:32 pm Porky Penny Pugwash would be off her nut to sup from that particular chalice. She strikes me as neither an evil person nor one for which the directorships would be awaiting in abundance.

I think you’re wide of the mark there. Mordaunt is as reactionary as you like, a Brexiter, and socially conservative. Nasty.

She does want it, too. (oo-err). She stood for leader when Truss was elected and only just missed out on making the final two. However, would the Tories want a leader who is in real danger of losing her seat at the election ?

Her seat isn't nailed on safe. Big UKIP vote in 2015, and Reform are no doubt lining up "Woke Penny" stuff. If she survives that, she'l be pretty well placed to win the leadership after the election.

The only reason I can see Mordaunt going for it is that this is probably the only chance she gets to put PM on her CV.

Rear Admiral and Prime Minister.


Whenerever she gets mentioned on Xitter, a bunch of fash post a load of "chicks don't have dicks" comments.

I think you’re wide of the mark there. Mordaunt is as reactionary as you like, a Brexiter, and socially conservative. Nasty.

When she had a trade job, the Brexit articles she was penning in the Express were even more moronic and dishonest than the paper’s staff. Although probably written for her as Badenoch now puts her name to the same horseshit fantasies.

Blimey, that is some blowback on my musings about P³. I really did think that she is a common or garden tory idiot with a streak of cold ambition.

Sunak didn’t want a photo-op with Obama because his party are rooting for Trump.

And what do we think this 5pm meeting will be about?

He will go in, be really weak and they will all bang the tables like performing seals.

Then they will brief their media chums to say “Sunak’s back”, that’s the “real Sunak” and other insane ramblings when people actually just want them to call an election and fuck off.

At this point all I think they are doing with these dates is to seek attention, hey look “we are still relevant”.

They were evidently going in May and then they shat the bed it seems because their great minds weren't aware that the new tax cut wouldn’t move the polls exactly as the previous tax cut didn’t move the polls, whilst at the same time pissing off pensioners for not giving them something more.

Alternatively they could go in May and all this bollocks can be over with. Some still seem to be clinging to inflation going below 2% and growth of 0.3% will suddenly bring everyone around.

Another suggestion was victory for Susan Hall might game change things, even if she did it wouldn’t, it would probably help get their vote out even more.

I think when you are relying on the English national team, good weather, Susan Hall and stagnant growth I think you have to admit that it’s all over.

Phil, the "Different Bias / Labour Social" YouTuber posted a piece last night.

He's usually a pretty canny reader of situations.
He suggested that Sunak has bet the farm on Susan Hall delivering a miracle win in the London Mayoral Race.

The detail was long and complex.
Like most post-Cummings tory plans, it's leakier that St David's day at the old Arms Park.

Essentially:
* Nothing has shifted the swingometer; not budget, boats or transphobia.
* Time to play the Joker - Susan Hall. Just re-run Zak Goldsmith's campaign with Islamophobia dialled up to 12 and a sprinkling of "war on the motorist".
* The tories have adjusted the election; formerly first and second preference, now plain FPTP - maybe Lib Dems will split Khan's vote.
* And somehow, this Susan Hall landslide will reset the national polls ... Hmm. Smells like desperation.

Meanwhile Sunak's playing cloak and dagger with the election date.
* He needs electors to believe it's far off, to project a bit of confidence.
* He needs his MPs to believe it might be soon, so they don't install a new leader for an Autumn election.

Phil closed on the sheer lack of business in the commons.
Pointing out how this facilitates the sort of plotters who'd love to install Mordaunt now for Braverman / Badenoch after the election.