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Yug wrote: ↑Wed May 14, 2025 7:55 pm How does one conflate disability with being in the final stage of a terminal illness? Unless they're acting in very bad faith, or are a total moron.

I've read some bollocks in my time, but this really takes the biscuit.

The only answer - assuming that the article wasn’t written by Josef Mengele - is that the person who penned it doesn’t think that at all, but they would very much like you to believe that people who support assisted dying do.

We had an anti-abortionist lecture at my school (we had a decent variety of speakers overall) who pulled a rhetorical trick on us a bit like that. If you thought abortion was ok because of likely severe disability, you logically think disabled people are unworthy.

Polly Toynbee with an inspiring call to MPs to pass a legacy. It's true that issues like this get remembered in the way that votes on regular politics don't.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... government

Toynbee doesn't fuck about.

Meg Hillier, always an anti, wants doctors gagged from mentioning assisted dying, creating a legal minefield to deter doctors from offering help.

At political extremes, Diane Abbott and Edward Leigh write that “the only adequate safeguard is to keep the current law unchanged”. But where are the safeguards against extreme suffering in death?

Denying everyone’s right to escape a torturing death is not the “safe” option. The Inescapable Truth, a report written by palliative care clinicians, reports, “Some will retch at the stench of their own body rotting. Some will vomit their own faeces. Some will suffocate, slowly, inexorably, over several days.” On any day their figures show an average of 17 people are dying these bad deaths: it could be you or me.

I first heard of vomiting one's own faeces BTL on the Guardian the other day. Jesus Christ.

Toynbee is, was, and will always be one of the best of us. You don't need to be 100% on side with her in order to cheer her to the rafters.