[Andy McDandy]

Seen on Facebook (because I wrote it) regarding Zia:

He's not even Shabna Mahmood's Chris Philp; he's Chris Philp's Chris Philp.

[Tubby Isaacs]

It's being blamed for an increase in youth unemployment.

Yeah, this is the stronger argument against it, at the lower age anyway. I thought that seemed a rather rash promise like the "day one" rights. I'd be OK with the rise in the lower ages being phased in.

[Andy McDandy]

I seem to remember quite a lot of youth unemployment prior to 1997.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Some zingers here from Danny Kruger. He's against no fault divorces, which I recall being a talking point for people who thought John Major was a liberal socialist. Is there any evidence this stuff appeals to Reform voters?

Farage isn't exactly Mr Family Man, then again nor is Trump and his party get away with pushing this stuff.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... al-economy

[Andy McDandy]

Kruger denied that Reform UK was a divisive party, and he suggested there could be widespread anger if the party did not win the next election.

“The total opposite is the case. The only chance of unity for our country is Reform. If we don’t win, or if we win and then make a mess of it, I do fear for our country,” he said.

Vote for us or the country gets it.

Got it, alright.

[Youngian]

How many Reform voters believe there's not enough people?
So Kruger wants to throw taxpayer money at policies that have failed in every country to reverse declining birthrates.

Kruger said Reform UK had a “pronatalist ambition” and would seek policies to encourage people to have more children, including exploring changes to the tax system to make payments based on households rather than individuals.