Mailwatch(ed) Forum

Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:24 pm He has a standard spiel that he trots out. Whatever the question, he just has to link it to vaccines, lockdown, building back, level up, getting on with the job. It's a bit like the taxi driver "ignorance" test where you have to know the fastest way from any point of conversation to "send 'em back, string 'em up, I'd do the job myself".

Absolutely. Everything they do goes straight to "If you're not with us you hate Britain.".

Oh yes, his standard response to any friendly question: "Oh I agree entirely with [MP] who is a fantastic champion for [constituency], and I agree that [thing] must be done in order to realise its true potential, in contrast to that lot who want to hold it back".

Boosterism, a belief that just being optimistic enough, not whingeing, just bloody getting stuck in is all that's needed, and the worst thing you can be is the killjoy who points out a thing just isn't possible.

Edit - of course, one of the reasons he's doing this is that of all the - ahem - "IT lessons" Jennifer Arcuri gave him, it looks as if one - search engine optimisation - sank in. So by associating Alice Thicke, MP with her constituency of Loamshire, he reinforces that link.

Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:17 am Boosterism, a belief that just being optimistic enough, not whingeing, just bloody getting stuck in is all that's needed, and the worst thing you can be is the killjoy who points out a thing just isn't possible.

America went through a similar thing with Carter/Raegan. They were unable to accept the grim and uncomfortable truths of the former so wanted the sunny optimistic daydreaming of the latter. I think the results of trickle down theory speak for themselves.

Oblomov wrote: ↑Thu Mar 31, 2022 10:23 am

Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:17 am Boosterism, a belief that just being optimistic enough, not whingeing, just bloody getting stuck in is all that's needed, and the worst thing you can be is the killjoy who points out a thing just isn't possible.

America went through a similar thing with Carter/Raegan. They were unable to accept the grim and uncomfortable truths of the former so wanted the sunny optimistic daydreaming of the latter. I think the results of trickle down theory speak for themselves.

"Do you not believe in Brexit?..."

Any reason for this, beyond saving "big dog".

Appealing to that core electorate. You know, those ones who like to think they're all about 'fairness'.

The cunt.

I don't always say this, but I want to hear more from George Osborne and David Cameron. It doesn't get them off the hook by any means, but they did us a service by taking on their gammons on gay rights. Are they happy with this from Johnson?

One gay, one trans, one black, one Asian. "Some of my best friends are..." to deflect any criticism.

And considering it's been 36 hours since one of their own MP's came out as trans, and it's Trans Day of Visibility, the optics couldn't be worse.

Maybe it's just me and my years of Tory hating baggage but come on, how is it possible to be FUCKING TORY never mind FUCKING TORY MP?

*and be trans*? See, I can barely type it.

Apparently the government has now performed another 'U' turn and now their will be a bill in the Queen's speech that will ban conversion therapy. Harold Wilson once said that a week is a long time in politics with Johnson it appears that an afternoon is now a long time in politics.

RedSparrows wrote: ↑Thu Mar 31, 2022 6:33 pm Appealing to that core electorate. You know, those ones who like to think they're all about 'fairness'.

I've got a Johnson-worshipping friend like that. They're the real racists, or bigots, because they're the ones who want special treatment and all he wants is fairness with everyone treated equally. Of course, when it comes to his mildly-dyslexic son, all fair and equal bets are off.

Jim Crow 'fairness'.

Aristotle said that it is unfair to treat unequals equally as it is to treat equals unequally.

satnav wrote: ↑Thu Mar 31, 2022 10:37 pm Apparently the government has now performed another 'U' turn and now their will be a bill in the Queen's speech that will ban conversion therapy. Harold Wilson once said that a week is a long time in politics with Johnson it appears that an afternoon is now a long time in politics.

Just not for Trans people, probably the worst effected. Alicia Kearns has been good on this, but yeah way to go on Trans Day of Visibility, how about announcing electric shock treatment for us during Pride Month.

Nye was right lower than Vermin, some at least.

I’m sure the U-turn and fuss on the day energy prices spike is entirely a coincidence. Who’s he pissed off? A group he doesn’t really care about. Who will be fired up by a ban now coming in, and blame ‘bloody poofs and queers’? Bigots.

Gets cost of living off of a few column heads and front pages, and gets a few more client journos asking Kier Starmer if women can have a penis, at the expense of an already marginalised group. Win win for Team Boris.

"So he wins again..."

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... oters-dont

Just a few weeks ago, he stood on the precipice of losing the premiership. Someone who ought to know tells me that the number of letters submitted to Sir Graham got close to the threshold that would have triggered a confidence vote. Now the prime minister feels able to wine, dine and crack wise with his MPs. And to do so in the very same week that the Metropolitan police started issuing penalties for law-breaking at Number 10, imposing 20 fines in the first wave and with more expected to follow. It is appalling enough that the Met has found a pattern of criminality at the very heart of government. It is worse that the prime minister treats this as a laughing matter. One senior Tory present at the dinner says: “The number of jokes Boris devoted to partygate showed that he is either monumentally insensitive or monumentally self-confident.” Or both.

This confirms that Mr Johnson feels neither genuine shame nor sincere remorse for the rampant lockdown-busting in Downing Street during the pandemic. It also tells us that this scandal has not changed his essential character one jot. That ought to alarm everyone, including the Tory MPs who laughed along with his jokes.