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Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 11:00 pm
by Boiler
I just remember the breakdown I had on here at the thought that I wouldn't be allowed to go and put hyacinths on my wife's grave on the tenth anniversary of her death.

Folk were very kind to me.

Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 11:03 pm
by Boiler
davidjay wrote: Wed Apr 13, 2022 10:49 pm The decent people left can rebuild this wonderful place you've destroyed. Fuck off.
2012 and the Olympic opening ceremony was only ten years ago. :(

Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 11:10 pm
by satnav
I used to work with a fairly cynical teacher who used to say that you could always tell when a pupil was in trouble with the police because their behaviour would suddenly improve because they knew that a good reference from the school could be crucial in avoiding a tough punishment, but this is exactly what Johnson has done. As soon as the case was passed to the police it was inevitable that he would get a fine so he worked overtime to ensure that he got some brownie points by involving himself in the Ukraine crisis. When he headed of to Ukraine on Saturday he probably knew that a fine was in the post.

Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:25 am
by davidjay
As I saw elsewhere:

The pandemic turned into a get rich quick scheme, the fears of the most desperate into the fantasy of Brexit, the war in Ukraine to a PR and photo opportunity, the lives of those fearing persecution into a racist vote winner.

Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:10 am
by Boiler
davidjay wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:25 am the lives of those fearing persecution into a racist vote winner.
... who will now end up in Rwanda.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61097114

Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:13 am
by RedSparrows
davidjay wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:25 am As I saw elsewhere:

The pandemic turned into a get rich quick scheme, the fears of the most desperate into the fantasy of Brexit, the war in Ukraine to a PR and photo opportunity, the lives of those fearing persecution into a racist vote winner.
This sums it up nicely. All under the guise of a responsible government.

Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:49 am
by Crabcakes
The sheer cost and impracticality of the Rwanda “scheme” means it will probably only be used briefly, if at all. But it’s very convenient for Johnson to throw some red meat out for his more cuntish supporters.

The focus needs to be on the obscene cost. Because we all know it’s a fucking abhorrent idea. Now it just needs to be shown to be a practically terrible one as well so the sort of scum who’d defend it has to do so while also saying why millions should be spent on it while British pensioners go hungry.

Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:04 am
by Boiler
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Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:17 am
by Nigredo
RedSparrows wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:13 am
davidjay wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:25 am As I saw elsewhere:

The pandemic turned into a get rich quick scheme, the fears of the most desperate into the fantasy of Brexit, the war in Ukraine to a PR and photo opportunity, the lives of those fearing persecution into a racist vote winner.
This sums it up nicely. All under the guise of a responsible government.
To think we could have had chaos with Ed Miliband instead.

Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 1:45 pm
by Boiler
And who did WATO decide to interview over this repatriate to Rwanda scheme? Everybody's favourite frog-faced racist cuntbubble, that's who.

The piece is at 07:25 in here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m00168m1

Warning: you may get angry.

Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:33 pm
by Boiler
PM vows to set record straight over claims he misled MPs over parties

From the SYB:

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Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:22 pm
by Crabcakes
Boiler wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:33 pm PM vows to set record straight over claims he misled MPs over parties

From the SYB:


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Could be interesting. It was his tone deaf, arrogant attitude in parliament when the story first broke that nearly did for him, and if he’s being needled by Starmer, Blackford and maybe a few on his own benches he won’t be able to keep the nasty, entitled bully who loathes scrutiny and accountability subdued for too long. Another performance where he tells everyone that 9 minutes doesn’t matter and that £50 is peanuts could do more damage to him than a whole fistful of fines.

Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:00 pm
by davidjay
His main defence now is "Everybody was doing it". I say once again, in all seriousness, what the fuck will it take for him to have to resign?

Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:18 pm
by The All New KevS
You watch. There'll be more fines, it will look like he's on the ropes, all will seem lost and then....

.... Brenda will hop the twig.

"We can't talk about a change of leader at a time of national mourning, you MONSTER."

Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:22 pm
by Crabcakes
davidjay wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:00 pm His main defence now is "Everybody was doing it". I say once again, in all seriousness, what the fuck will it take for him to have to resign?
His main problem there is, they weren’t. The only people who were were thoughtless, selfish shits like himself, people convicted by the plod’s often draconian application of the guidance, or desperate people breaking the law for their own or someone else’s benefit in terms of staying alive or staying sane. The former group probably already vote for him or don’t bother at all. The latter will be furious at his tiny fine and being lumped together with him.

Those who did stick to the rules though (and this was a cross-everything demographic) - whether it was just doing that, or doing that in harrowing circumstances, won’t forget it. And every time someone tells them to move on, draw a line under it or that it was ‘nothing’, it will make them more and more angry.

He could have drawn a line under it by offering a proper, sincere apology. Or by fessing up in advance. Or by not lying and saying none of it happened. But every time he chose instead to first bluster it out and second (when that failed) to try the exceptionalism clause. That he was a special case and that 9 minutes for him is fine and so on.

I really think this is what’s going to sink him, and I think he will fight it to the last and torch the Tories in the process because it stabs right to the heart of what he believes - that he is special. And there can be no greater insult to him, no bigger affront to what he believes, than to simply be held to the same rules as the rest of us.

Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:52 pm
by Cyclist
Just keep it on the boil...

Boris Johnson made a special request for Evgeny Lebedev and a Kremlin-linked Russian dignitary to bypass security checks when he met them as London mayor in 2015, the Guardian has learned.

Johnson’s friendship with Lebedev has come under scrutiny in recent weeks, including the prime minister’s decision to award the Russian-born media owner a peerage in spite of concerns raised by the intelligence and security services.

Official documents show Johnson had a meeting in his office at City Hall in 2015 with Lebedev and Mikhail Piotrovsky, the director of Russia’s State Hermitage Museum, who has links to Vladimir Putin....

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ty-in-2015
Is there anything else you'd like to tell us, Mr Johnson?

Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:05 pm
by davidjay
I still don't think it'll make an iota of difference. His followers will defend it, the media they claim is against them will ignore it, his Politbureau will double down. Nothing will change.

Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:52 pm
by satnav
It looks like Johnson is getting his excuses early just in case his Rwanda plan fails.

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I always thought in a democracy it was the role of the opposition to scrutinize legislation to ensure that it is fit for purpose and affordable. Johnson clearly has other ideas. This policy has clearly been rushed out to divert attention from partygate so there is every chance that it has not been properly thought through.

Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:09 pm
by Andy McDandy
And it doesn't work.

The aim, apparently, is to crack down on channel crossings. How? Where do these flights get filled up? Are the French on board? Why not risk a crossing, evade the guards, anything other than getting sent to the back end of beyond?

Stupid, evil, incompetent crap from start to finish.

Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:56 pm
by davidjay
Strange how "80 seat majority" can justify absolutely any new proposal, yet they're so uncertain of themselves that 'the Left' will wreck it all.