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Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:17 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
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Where's he the MP for?
Oh... Mansfield.
What. A. Fucking. Surprise.
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Mansfield has Ben Bradley, Lee Anderson is in Ashfield.
He might not be as secure as he looks. Lots of "Ashfield Independent" voters, who may not be particularly impressed with him.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:19 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Boiler wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:27 pm
Where's he the MP for?
Oh... Mansfield.
What. A. Fucking. Surprise.
Ashfield. Mansfield has Ben Bradley.
Anderson may be in for a shock next time, Lots of independents in Ashfield who might be unimpressed.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:32 pm
by Boiler
Ah, my apologies. Misread Wiki.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:38 pm
by Boiler
From
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61170379
The government will attempt to delay a decision over an investigation into whether Boris Johnson misled MPs about lockdown parties.
MPs were set to vote on Thursday on a Labour plan for a Commons committee to investigate his past comments about Whitehall gatherings.
But ministers now say that vote should wait until probes by the Met Police and civil servant Sue Gray have concluded.
Some rebel Tory MPs were threatening to vote with Labour, or not at all.
A Labour source said Tory whips "knew that they couldn't vote this down" - and MPs backing the government would be "voting for a cover-up".
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:41 pm
by kreuzberger
Are they not both scab constituencies? Dogs, flees, sleep tight.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:42 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Been looking at the New Statesman election thing. There's an implausibly high Reform Party score which could be squeezed by the Tories very easily. But against that, the Tories hold a lot of seats with fairly low vote shares, with assumptions of no tactical voting (by Greens or Labour mostly). The Tory position is worse than the headline seat numbers look.
https://sotn.newstatesman.com/2022/03/britainpredicts/
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:45 pm
by Boiler
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:46 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
kreuzberger wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:41 pm
Are they not both scab constituencies? Dogs, flees, sleep tight.
Is it me, or have Labour died on their arse in areas that worked on in 1984? I mean, North West Durham was bad in the last election but at least Pidcock was competitive. Labour lost Cannock Chase by nearly 20,000.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:08 am
by Nigredo
Crabcakes wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:32 pm
Nigredo wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 2:48 pm
Boiler wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:04 pm
That first Tweet made me shudder, for many reasons
As well it should. 5 hours for my mother to pass after they removed the oxygen mask, and bearing witness to it remains the single most wretched and worst thing I've ever had to do on this earth. And I was lucky enough to be by her bedside and not saying goodbye through a fucking Ipad.
Bloody hell. That sounds absolutely horrendous, and no way to go out or have to say goodbye.
It was typical of mum's robust stubborness that she kept fighting through something that would've finished off most others quite easily. She had myriad health issues that meant her time was coming sooner rather than later and I'd made as much peace with that as is possible, what truly haunts me is that we weren't able to see her whilst she was conscious and cognizant and her last week alive on this earth was spent alone, bored, miserable and scared witless in a hospital side room with no human contact. But more on that should be for my grief counsellor.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 11:45 am
by Boiler
I see the Government has dropped the bid to delay the vote on probing the PM.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 12:02 pm
by Spoonman
Boiler wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:27 pm

Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:33 pm
by kreuzberger
Christ...
Liz Truss: 6/1
Tom Tugendhat: 8/1
Jeremy Hunt: 8/1
Ben Wallace: 10/1
Penny Mordaunt: 21/2
Rishi Sunak: 12/1
Sajid Javid: 17/1
Michael Gove: 20/1
Nadhim Zahawi: 23/1
Dominic Raab: 33/1
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:42 pm
by Andy McDandy
Interesting that the closer they are to him, the longer the odds (and yes, I count Truss there, as she's largely avoided humiliation on morning TV/radio, and her role distances her from domestic shit). Almost as if Brand Boris is increasingly tainted.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:19 pm
by Watchman
I had the same thought
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:51 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Interesting to see Steve Baker turning on him.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:58 pm
by Watchman
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:36 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
The motion passes.
Oooh...
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:59 pm
by Andy McDandy
Apparently for many - Baker included - his triumphal performance at the Tuesday night meeting was the proof they needed that his "contrition" was all for show.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:03 pm
by Youngian
A Tory MP at the end of his tether having to cover for Johnson. Very good speech.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:16 pm
by Boiler
Baker referred to Ezekiel 7:3 in his speech, I note.
Which reads:
The end is now upon you, and I will unleash my anger against you. I will judge you according to your conduct and repay you for all your detestable practices
(New International Version)