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He was one of the chief pushers of Beergate.

Let it go. It's Dan Hodges and, as any observer of this ridiculous man knows, he's never been right about anything, ever. Besides, why should anyone, anywhere give a shit about what he thinks about anything? I've got a lifetime of experience to draw on, I could run rings around him based on the jobs I've done, the people I've known and the places I've been. So fuck off Dan Hodges.

The Governor of Oregon seems unhaunted by the assisted dying law the state passed in 1994.

I was listening to news earlier when Tammy Gray Thompson was arguing that the Bill was wrong because there were not enough medical professional available to make it viable. I have a lot of time for Tammy Gray Thompson but given that the Bill won't come into effect for 4 years there is plenty of time to get the medics in place. And if the medics are not in place then approval won't be given.

satnav wrote: ↑Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:54 pm How the hell has Dan Hodges become one of the Mail's chief political correspondent? He really is as thick as pig shit. He churns out crap that is lapped up by Mail readers even if what he writes is utter bollocks.

QED

The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Fri Jun 20, 2025 8:11 pm I remember when this person claimed Kim was only elected because Jo Cox was murdered.

Well, technically, that is true, as Kim herself readily acknowledges. But she wasn’t even trying to become an MP until her sister Jo was murdered.

By one of the coincidences that make our world such an interesting place my mum finally slipped away a few hours after the vote. Anyone who voted against it should have had to spend the last few months visiting her. She was thankfully peaceful over the past few days but before that we had months of mental torture for her and a lot of angst for those of us who saw her fading.

I'm sorry for your loss and hope your mom finds peace.

My condolences, David.
I hope you can now find peace and closure, and your memories of her will be from before her illness.

In my thoughts.

Hope you’re ok, David. Glad that the last few days were peaceful at least.

My condolences, David. As my Jewish friends like to say, may your mum’s memory be a blessing.

Thank you all. I'm now pondering whether the extra weeks of her anguish were worth having if they meant her going peacefully when her time really had come.

davidjay wrote: ↑Sat Jun 21, 2025 12:35 pm Thank you all. I'm now pondering whether the extra weeks of her anguish were worth having if they meant her going peacefully when her time really had come.

One of those thoughts that inevitably comes to mind in these, very particular, circumstances. Though I clearly cannot possibly know, I would venture that from your Mum’s point of view, the answer to that question is almost certainly no.

Only you can say whether the answer from your own point of view would be that it was indeed worth seeing your Mum suffer for those extra few weeks of life just to have had her with you for that extended period.

My condolences, David.

I'm very sorry for your loss David, celebrate her life and try to take comfort in the knowledge her suffering has ended.

Abernathy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 21, 2025 12:46 pm

davidjay wrote: ↑Sat Jun 21, 2025 12:35 pm Thank you all. I'm now pondering whether the extra weeks of her anguish were worth having if they meant her going peacefully when her time really had come.

One of those thoughts that inevitably comes to mind in these, very particular, circumstances. Though I clearly cannot possibly know, I would venture that from your Mum’s point of view, the answer to that question is almost certainly no.

Only you can say whether the answer from your own point of view would be that it was indeed worth seeing your Mum suffer for those extra few weeks of life just to have had her with you for that extended period.

Sorry, I may not have made myself clear. What I meant to say was whether it was better for her to have a few more bad weeks then die peacefully rather than to have gone earlier in agony. I know that I'd have preferred her to have died a couple of months ago but at least this way I can remember a more dignified end. It's a very difficult subject; everyone will approach it differently and I don't think any of us has the right to condemn anyone else's decision.

davidjay wrote: ↑Sat Jun 21, 2025 12:47 am By one of the coincidences that make our world such an interesting place my mum finally slipped away a few hours after the vote. Anyone who voted against it should have had to spend the last few months visiting her. She was thankfully peaceful over the past few days but before that we had months of mental torture for her and a lot of angst for those of us who saw her fading.

Very sorry to hear this, chap. As others have said, I’m sure in time the recent trauma will fade and the memories of happier times will take their rightful place. But in the meantime you know she’s no longer suffering.

Good to see strong criticism BTL to this. Estimated time assisted dying would start is 2029, not next week. "Wider society" though. Is that basically "never"? She supports the principle though.

There's a chance for Starmer to raise some tax for palliative care. He ought to take it. Then again he ought to have raised a Putin Tax too, and he didn't.

davidjay wrote: ↑Sat Jun 21, 2025 1:36 pm

Sorry, I may not have made myself clear. What I meant to say was whether it was better for her to have a few more bad weeks then die peacefully rather than to have gone earlier in agony. I know that if I'd have preferred her to have died a couple of months ago but at least this way I can remember a more dignified end. It's a very difficult subject; everyone will approach it differently and I don't think any of us has the right to condemn anyone else's decision.

You explained it very here. Can I ask, was it a surprise that your Mum became more comfortable? Were you told this might happen? Glad that it worked out like it did.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Sat Jun 21, 2025 4:32 pm

davidjay wrote: ↑Sat Jun 21, 2025 1:36 pm

Sorry, I may not have made myself clear. What I meant to say was whether it was better for her to have a few more bad weeks then die peacefully rather than to have gone earlier in agony. I know that if I'd have preferred her to have died a couple of months ago but at least this way I can remember a more dignified end. It's a very difficult subject; everyone will approach it differently and I don't think any of us has the right to condemn anyone else's decision.

You explained it very here. Can I ask, was it a surprise that your Mum became more comfortable? Were you told this might happen? Glad that it worked out like it did.

Nothing was explained because we never really asked. Her dementia came on so quickly that we knew she wouldn't have long and therefore we went along with whatever care was put in place; we certainly had no complaints about that. She went from wanting to go home all the time to trying to stand up, then screaming and hitting out from what seemed frustration. She had a couple of illnesses that she wasn't expected to survive but recovered and after the second it was mutually decided that she'd go onto end of life. This was just over a month ago.

After that she got weaker and raged less until earlier this week she seemed calmer and peaceful because she no longer had the strength to do anything else. That was when we knew it was ending.