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Well considering a lot of our infrastructure and companies are owned by by foreign countries and we aren't lumbered with a massively expensive armed forces, we're kinda not like the USSR in the 80s. The Telegraphs does like to pump out the bollocks nowadays. Could give the Express a run for their money.

...what?

Farage is an articulation of the system at it's most cynical. This is absolute horseshit.

'blane immigrants shrink the state', the end.

What's this "rigid ideology"? Seems like there's quite a variety of approaches- stronger industrial strategy than before, more regulated labour market, but also deregulation in some areas.

"The managerial class" do actually have experience of managing things. I thought the Telegraph supported the Tories as the natural party of government? Not to mention that Gorbachev was himself and insider.

Best stick to that line of work as you're a crap writer and even worse political analyst.

I thought I'd go to Google Discover and read through the random headlines. These are today's offerings from the Torygraph:

Britain has moved one step closer to PM Miliband

Dale Vince’s net zero airline in disarray after sacking almost entire workforce

Norway’s electricity crisis is about to hit Britain

The wind farm exposing Ed Miliband’s ‘dishonesty’

How Rayner tried to cling to working-class roots while partying in Britain’s most woke town

So much doom and gloom, and it's all the fault of Ed Miliband and Net Zero. Oh, and the working-class aren't allowed to go out partying.


The staff at the Torygraph seriously need help.

Is the last article about Angela Rayner having a night out in Brighton? They seem to be under the impression that "woke" means "posh" there.

Youngian wrote: ↑Sat Aug 30, 2025 8:05 pm Best stick to that line of work as you're a crap writer and even worse political analyst.

Ha ha. As Giles Wilkes said, the UK's problems would mightily relieved if the government did some politically embarrassing but not that massive, tax rises.

My impression of late Soviet Union was that the problems ran a bit deeper than that.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Sun Aug 31, 2025 4:58 pm Is the last article about Angela Rayner having a night out in Brighton? They seem to be under the impression that "woke" means "posh" there.

I don't know, I didn't read any of the articles. It could just be that in the minds* of Torygraph staff every single working-class person is a reactionary fascist cunt. Having any sort of regard for your fellow human beings means you're not proper working-class.


*such as they are

Is Angela Rayner proper working class? Is she a secret bigot then? Presumably she bought a flat in Brighton because she liked the place.

They consider it "most woke" because of the high proportion of blue on blue enthusiasts living there, and people being so chilled about it that nobody's throwing bricks at them.

Once again, woke is used to mean "anything we don't like".

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Sun Aug 31, 2025 5:03 pm

Youngian wrote: ↑Sat Aug 30, 2025 8:05 pm Best stick to that line of work as you're a crap writer and even worse political analyst.

Ha ha. As Giles Wilkes said, the UK's problems would mightily relieved if the government did some politically embarrassing but not that massive, tax rises.

My impression of late Soviet Union was that the problems ran a bit deeper than that.

Also Gorbachev failed to achieve what he wanted. He wanted to return the Soviet Union to what it was like pre-Stalin.

Economic heavyweights Rachel Johnson and Tim Stanley tackle the Mansion Tax. In true non-partisan style, it begins with "Can the Chancellor really be so stupid?"

Riots are predicted if this not particularly unpopular tax is introduced. Riots.

It will be a surprise to no one that Rachel Johnson can't think of another tax more unpopular than one on £2m mansions.

What determines if a house is a “mansion”, or not?

Looking at stamp duty would be better, together with a recurring annual levy on properties over a certain value. This / these might be more workable and easier to implement without having some 30m homes officially valued in a way that would not make millions for estate agents and could not be challenged in the courts.

kreuzberger wrote: ↑Tue Oct 28, 2025 8:28 pm Looking at stamp duty would be better, together with a recurring annual levy on properties over a certain value. This / these might be more workable and easier to implement without having some 30m homes officially valued in a way that would not make millions for estate agents and could not be challenged in the courts.

My preference would be to have in effect an extra council tax band. You'd only need to revalue a small number of the houses, once. If it's worth of £2m, or even higher, in 2026, then there's extra council tax to pay, a flat amount rather than a percentage. Wouldn't raise all that much, but would be overwhelmingly in London, which hasn't had a particularly generous funding settlement. Councils could choose to impose it and keep the revenue.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Tue Oct 28, 2025 7:23 pm Economic heavyweights Rachel Johnson and Tim Stanley tackle the Mansion Tax. In true non-partisan style, it begins with "Can the Chancellor really be so stupid?"

Riots are predicted if this not particularly unpopular tax is introduced. Riots.

Will they bring their horses, hounds and gamekeepers?

One of the problems with the Poll Tax was that that so many people didn't pay it, and contested it in court so that the system couldn't function. South Yorkshire Police didn't have the manpower to arrest any more people for defaulting.

Do they think "everyone" lives in a. £2m house?

Telegraph reporting is as bad as the comment. This is completely wrong.

Outrage, as Labour councillor in Bournemouth accurately quotes Lenin to make a good point. The Lib Dem led council (Bournemouth Christchurch Poole) passed a motion condemning the flagwankers, so Fleet Street has it in for them generally.

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