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Re: Andy Burnham
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2026 11:37 am
by mattomac
With defence, I would like someone will some knowledge of it. I don't see what Wes offers frankly.
I think he did a pretty good job at health actually (Of course many of his snipers don't) plus he seemed very open towards Europe (I guess that might help with the Ukraine stuff at least) also with Healy where he is that will also mean Ukraine is not being forgot.
Miliband would also be very good with Europe but it seems not to interest Burnham. Powell in any brief bar a none job is a bit of a joke. As I said some of the appointments down the list are good, Rayner has housing back which is good.
He will live and die by his choices to be honest.... I am not really interested in the fact he doesn't use notes or a lectern. Seen that act before and the man who did it was a vacuous non-entity who ended up causing Brexit.
Re: Andy Burnham
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2026 12:08 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
New governments like to cancel something. Cameron and Clegg cancelled ID cards, NHS IT and Home Information packs. You get a bit of cod libertarian credit from the media and it looks like you're tackling "waste". Clearly there were problems with the NHS IT project but bad NHS records have continued to kill people and waste time.
But it's cutting investment, and makes us worse off.
Re: Andy Burnham
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2026 12:30 pm
by Oboogie
mattomac wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2026 11:37 am
With defence, I would like someone will some knowledge of it. I don't see what Wes offers frankly.
You could say the appointment's indefensible!
I'll get me coat.
Re: Andy Burnham
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2026 4:41 pm
by Boiler
I love how some Grauniad BTLers describe Starmer as "self-serving and duplicitous".
And Burnham isn't?!
Some really do need to give their fucking heads a wobble.
Re: Andy Burnham
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2026 5:39 pm
by Boiler
So, Burnham the Berk is going to save families money on their electricity bills by removing the 5% VAT.
This will save the average household £42 a year.
Or, a bottle of beer a month.
Re: Andy Burnham
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2026 6:41 pm
by Youngian
Littlejohn's column this week will be about Burnham taking us back to the 70s and the IMF as he has a chancellor called Healy. Silly Billy ha ha Mike Yarwood.
Re: Andy Burnham
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2026 7:31 pm
by kreuzberger
Boiler wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2026 5:39 pm
So, Burnham the Berk is going to save families money on their electricity bills by removing the 5% VAT.
This will save the average household £42 a year.
Or, a bottle of beer a month.
Millions of households can't afford heating or basic nutrition, let alone beer. But,hey, do go on. How much more should they be freed of their tax burden without jeopardising Bunty and Wodger's eight weeks in Chamonix?
Re: Andy Burnham
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2026 7:47 pm
by Boiler
It's gesture politics, nothing more. And it'll be lost when the next price cap changes.
I thought better of you.
Re: Andy Burnham
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2026 8:33 pm
by kreuzberger
Boiler wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2026 7:47 pm
I thought better of you.
I am not better, far from it. Such is growing up in a council house in Luton where bread and jam was sold in as "summer tea".
That is neither a badge of honour nor of pride, just a scar that is marking families and cutting deep in to children two-and-a-bit generations later.
Re: Andy Burnham
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2026 8:42 pm
by kreuzberger
Trebles all round at Geebeebies and Twitter that Burnham (woodn't - Scottish play ) has left Lisa Nandy in play to enforce her lack of impact upon DCMS.
Re: Andy Burnham
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2026 9:09 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Anas Sarwar apparently joining the Cabinet. This really does look like a bunch of plotters laughing at Starmer.
Re: Andy Burnham
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2026 9:11 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Nandy may surprise us. There are lots of appointments coming up on the BBC board, new Chair of Ofcom.
Re: Andy Burnham
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2026 11:28 pm
by davidjay
I really, really want this to work.
Re: Andy Burnham
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2026 9:51 am
by Tubby Isaacs
Inflation down to 2.6%. Glad they got rid of that useless accounts girl.
Re: Andy Burnham
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2026 9:54 am
by Boiler
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2026 9:51 am
Inflation down to 2.6%. Glad they got rid of that useless accounts girl.
Yeah, and that even-worse-than-Liz-Truss Prime Minister too.
Re: Andy Burnham
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2026 10:36 am
by davidjay
No doubt financial experts are searching for a less-impressive figure to call the REAL measure of the economy.
Re: Andy Burnham
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2026 11:07 am
by kreuzberger
I heard Radio 4 breaking that news this morning, mustering up their best "Brenda is dead" solemnity. Pathetic.
Re: Andy Burnham
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2026 12:02 pm
by Youngian
Nick Watt has invented a faction called the Starmerites. An unammed MP allegedly told Watt in apocalyptic tones that they'll reap vengeance on King Andy the usurper.
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/18UtzshSDJ/
Re: Andy Burnham
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2026 1:04 pm
by mattomac
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2026 9:09 pm
Anas Sarwar apparently joining the Cabinet. This really does look like a bunch of plotters laughing at Starmer.
Is he being made a Lord, as how can he be in the cabinet if he isn't a lord or an MP? I am slightly surprised they didn't take advantage of Khan being made a Lord.
Re: Andy Burnham
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2026 1:12 pm
by Andy McDandy
Youngian wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2026 12:02 pm
Nick Watt has invented a faction called the Starmerites. An unammed MP allegedly told Watt in apocalyptic tones that they'll reap vengeance on King Andy the usurper.
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/18UtzshSDJ/
Most of us got over Game of Thrones.