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I heard it suggested today that the beard-burning hand-choppers' taking the fruity stuff to 60% was merely sabre-rattling. "See? We have the Power."

There is some decent logic in that, albeit laced with irresponsibility which tempts the FAFO maxim.

A double-tap on journalists and rescue workers in Gaza. That has to be up there with the most egregious and wanton crimes of this bestial, criminal enterprise in Tel Aviv.

Utterly hateful.

No worries - Netanyahu has called it a "tragic mishap". I'm sure there'll be a full and open inquiry with the blame correctly apportioned.

davidjay wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 10:19 pm No worries - Netanyahu has called it a "tragic mishap". I'm sure there'll be a full and open inquiry with the blame correctly apportioned.

Bibi's pals on Facebook "know" they were all Hamas.

Some credit due to Trump - never thought I’d write that - for bringing Netanyahu to heel and getting Hamas to realise that holding onto the hostages is no longer either benefitting their cause or protecting Palestinians from the Israelis’ decimation of Gaza, so a peace agreement is in both parties’ interests.

Two things, though :

A near identical deal was available to Netanyahu when Biden was still president, but he gave it the rubber ear. What has changed ?

The Nobel Prize committee decides tomorrow who will be awarded this year’s prize for pursuing peace. Technically, though, the prize is apparently being awarded for work during 2024, not today. So maybe the president who decided to rename the USA Department for Defence the Department of War will not be getting the vanity-boosting award that he so publicly craves. As someone has just observed, the peace prize is awarded to someone who has worked to achieve peace for the greater good of the world, not for the sake of his own narcissism.

Cynic in me thinks Netanyahu agrees to it with Trump around because it suits their mutual needs better than doing it when Biden was around.

Short answer is that Netanyahu is scared of Trump but wasn't of Biden.

The leverage that a US president has against Netanyahu is the threat of cutting off US arms sales to Israel.
For this to work, Netanyahu has to believe the US will follow through. Biden, like all previous presidents, needed the support of the US electorate and this involves not upsetting the pro-Israel lobby therefore Netanyahu could safely ignore any such threat.
Trump doesn't care about the US electorate, they voted him in, there's nothing further he needs from them. He has nothing to lose by upsetting the Israel-lobby and is free to carry out his threats.

Abernathy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 09, 2025 12:18 pm The Nobel Prize committee decides tomorrow who will be awarded this year’s prize for pursuing peace. Technically, though, the prize is apparently being awarded for work during 2024, not today. So maybe the president who decided to rename the USA Department for Defence the Department of War will not be getting the vanity-boosting award that he so publicly craves. As someone has just observed, the peace prize is awarded to someone who has worked to achieve peace for the greater good of the world, not for the sake of his own narcissism.

And the winner is María Corina Machado, for work promoting democratic rights in Venezuela.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... ws-updates

Boiler wrote: ↑Fri Oct 10, 2025 10:36 am

Abernathy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 09, 2025 12:18 pm The Nobel Prize committee decides tomorrow who will be awarded this year’s prize for pursuing peace. Technically, though, the prize is apparently being awarded for work during 2024, not today. So maybe the president who decided to rename the USA Department for Defence the Department of War will not be getting the vanity-boosting award that he so publicly craves. As someone has just observed, the peace prize is awarded to someone who has worked to achieve peace for the greater good of the world, not for the sake of his own narcissism.

And the winner is María Corina Machado, for work promoting democratic rights in Venezuela.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... ws-updates

Trump left waiting - like Dacre at new year ...

I do anticipate some batshit shutdown against Venezuela, or Venezuelans in the USA.

Bones McCoy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 10, 2025 1:16 pm

Boiler wrote: ↑Fri Oct 10, 2025 10:36 am

Abernathy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 09, 2025 12:18 pm The Nobel Prize committee decides tomorrow who will be awarded this year’s prize for pursuing peace. Technically, though, the prize is apparently being awarded for work during 2024, not today. So maybe the president who decided to rename the USA Department for Defence the Department of War will not be getting the vanity-boosting award that he so publicly craves. As someone has just observed, the peace prize is awarded to someone who has worked to achieve peace for the greater good of the world, not for the sake of his own narcissism.

And the winner is María Corina Machado, for work promoting democratic rights in Venezuela.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... ws-updates

Trump left waiting - like Dacre at new year ...

I do anticipate some batshit shutdown against Venezuela, or Venezuelans in the USA.

Actually Trump approves of María Corina Machado because he hates the Venezuelan government.
I don't know if anyone's explained it to Trump, but this award was for 2024 so he wasn't in the running no matter how many wars he claims to have ended this year.

Oboogie wrote: ↑Fri Oct 10, 2025 5:09 pm

Bones McCoy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 10, 2025 1:16 pm

Boiler wrote: ↑Fri Oct 10, 2025 10:36 am

And the winner is María Corina Machado, for work promoting democratic rights in Venezuela.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... ws-updates

Trump left waiting - like Dacre at new year ...

I do anticipate some batshit shutdown against Venezuela, or Venezuelans in the USA.

Actually Trump approves of María Corina Machado because he hates the Venezuelan government.
I don't know if anyone's explained it to Trump, but this award was for 2024 so he wasn't in the running no matter how many wars he claims to have ended this year.

Would they have either the time and/or the crayons?

One of the reasons why I distrust the pro-Palestine movement is because of little shits like this.

How the fuck do you workshop a chant?

davidjay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 12:53 am How the fuck do you workshop a chant?

...and fail to notice that 'proud' doesn't rhyme with 'ground'.

Yeah. BBC Wales interviewed a member of the self-proclaimed 'Gaza Aid Flotilla' a couple of weeks ago, who claimed that "We're powered by love, empathy and humanity" - While clearly wearing a 'From the River to the Sea' T-shirt.

"Peace, maaan. Also, destroy Israel and force the Jews into the sea. Maaan."

That lad is possibly the living personification of performative left-wing “radical” right-on-ness. The ridiculous keffiyeh draped across the shoulders. The worked-up, bust-a-blood-vessel anger. The ludicrous chant . “The Zios” for fuck’s sake.

What an absolute grade “A”wanker. Like a glimpse of the life of the young Jeremy Corbyn of 60 years ago.

Oboogie wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 1:49 am

davidjay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 12:53 am How the fuck do you workshop a chant?

...and fail to notice that 'proud' doesn't rhyme with 'ground'.

Maybe

“Gaza, Gaza, don’t be silly.
Kick those Zios in the willy.”

or

“Gaza, Gaza, here’s my thumb.
Stuff it up a Zio’s bum”.

or

“Gaza, Gaza, don’t be nice,
Let’s nick all the Zios’ rice.”

Sorry. Getting desperate now.

Any more rhyming re-formulations?

"Gaza, Gaza, you're the best
Israelis, give it a rest!"

"Gaza, river to the sea
Gazza's here with a KFC"

Gaza, Gaza in the news...

Oh, wait...

"Gaza's Gazan, Gaza Gaza
Not Israeli like Ofra Haza..."*

*Israeli singer, was with the Sisters of Mercy for a bit. Died quite young, very sad.