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Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 31, 2025 3:58 pm No, they just absorbed the attitude every day of their lives. South Yorkshire pit villages circa 1984 were not renowned for their cosmopolitan atmosphere. Although in fairness, they also thought of gay people as effeminate, weak, and promiscuous, as well as evil.

That's correct, and it wasn't exclusive to miners or South Yorkshire. However discrimination was illegal and it certainly wasn't taught as part of any industrial training. Much of British society and the law have moved on in the last forty years the outposts of homophobia remain, of course, but they are largely restricted to aged football hooligans and religious fruitloops.

Think it's highly unlikely that the majority of voters of these Gaza Independent MPs are anything but, shall we say, highly gender critical. And there's also the dynamic of "community leaders" and the like. But that doesn't mean that Queers For Palestine won't have impressed some, particularly younger, activists, who may be less than enthusiastic about the aforesaid community leaders. I'd expect some of these younger activists to prefer the Green Party. So in that sense it probably will be a nuisance for the Gaza Independents who didn't have to worry about this issue (or any other) at the election. Won't be true at the next one.

kreuzberger wrote: ↑Sun Aug 31, 2025 4:02 pm Old school, working class bigotry. Or "social conservatism", as the linguistic whitewashers would repackage it.

Or Old Labour as a lot of Reform voters would say.