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Re: Trot Watch

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2025 11:21 pm
by RedSparrows
Parodies of themselves.

Re: Trot Watch

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2025 12:17 am
by Oboogie
mattomac wrote: Fri Sep 19, 2025 11:03 pm Apparently labelled “our party”….I’m surprised it’s gone like this, this quick.
Really? I'm surprised it's taken this long.

Re: Trot Watch

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2025 12:49 am
by The Weeping Angel
Zarah's statement.


Re: Trot Watch

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2025 7:37 am
by zuriblue
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Re: Trot Watch

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2025 12:07 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I won't stand for politically motivated baseless attacks, says woman who called David Lammy and Keir Starmer war criminals.

Re: Trot Watch

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2025 5:02 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I'm not entirely confident that Zarah is all over the details of GDPR.

Re: Trot Watch

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2025 5:09 pm
by Abernathy
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 5:02 pm I'm not entirely confident that Zarah is all over the details of GDPR.
I’m not at all confident that Sultana is all over anything - including, quite possibly, how to tie her own shoelaces. She has long been marked down in my book as possibly the very thickest of the Trots (including Ian Lavery).

Re: Trot Watch

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2025 1:21 pm
by The Weeping Angel
It's the hand of the CIA, I tell you.


Re: Trot Watch

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2025 1:31 pm
by davidjay

Re: Trot Watch

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2025 6:33 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
The Weeping Angel wrote: Sun Sep 21, 2025 1:21 pm It's the hand of the CIA, I tell you.
Ha ha ha ha ha.

Owen Jones "amplified it without scrutiny". Have they heard of him before?

Re: Trot Watch

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2025 8:52 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Here's the cavalry.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -party-row
A historic opportunity for the British left is being thrown away. This very public Your Party row must stop now
Yanis Varoufakis and Ken Loach
No mention of the Greens, as ever.

And a rather optimistic view that they just have to organize a conference, and everything works.

Re: Trot Watch

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2025 9:07 pm
by Youngian
Future generations will be damning if this fails

Re: Trot Watch

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2025 12:10 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Zarah Sultana drops legal threat over feud with Jeremy Corbyn
MP ‘determined to reconcile’ with former Labour leader after fledgling party’s membership sign-up row

Re: Trot Watch

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2025 12:18 pm
by Killer Whale
Poe?

Re: Trot Watch

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2025 12:22 pm
by Oboogie
Killer Whale wrote: Mon Sep 22, 2025 12:18 pmPoe?
Too small to read and too low resolution to enlarge. Can you post a link please?

Re: Trot Watch

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2025 2:00 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
It's all a Smear (sic) by the Establshment...

Re: Trot Watch

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2025 3:29 pm
by Killer Whale
Oboogie wrote: Mon Sep 22, 2025 12:22 pm
Killer Whale wrote: Mon Sep 22, 2025 12:18 pmPoe?
Too small to read and too low resolution to enlarge. Can you post a link please?
https://www.facebook.com/Brits4Corbyn

Re: Trot Watch

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2025 5:25 pm
by davidjay
It does say parody at the top though.

Re: Trot Watch

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2025 7:58 pm
by Oboogie
So the BBC made the whole thing up and Corbyn and Sultana never fell out at all?
Gosh, aren't the BBC naughty with their fake news!

Re: Trot Watch

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2025 8:26 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Following Yanis and Ken into the breach, here's Owen

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... party-left

Corbyn and Sultana: the needs of the left are greater than any of your differences
More than 750,000 people signed up in support of an unchristened, nonexistent party. Polling suggested nearly a third of Britons would vote for an alliance with the Greens; among under-35s, support rose to 52%. That media outlets spent more time mocking its placeholder name, Your Party, than seeking to understand this phenomenon tells its own story
I'm calling bollocks on this. The Greens are on about 11%. Is there really another 22% waiting to jump in behind Jez and Tariq Ali?

The media mocked, did they? I think that mockery (which wasn't just about the name) isn't looking misplaced so far.
In today’s Britain, “legitimate concerns” means kicking out migrants, not taxing elites to rebuild crumbling services.]
Which elites aren't paying tax? It's like the non-dom changes didn't happen, nor any other of the top end tax rises in the budget.
Meanwhile, polling consistently shows mass support for leftwing policies such as hiking tax on the rich and public ownership. The Greens, meanwhile, have elected the extremely impressive Zack Polanski, whose eco-socialist pitch is cutting through. An alliance between a new left party and the Greens could replace an imploding Labour.
Polls show support for much lower immigration, lower inheritance tax and capital punishment. So what? We'll soon see how far "the extremely impressive Zack Polanski" has cut through. And given the farce with Your Party, it's a bit much to accuse Labour of imploding.
None of this erases the challenges. Any viable left coalition must recognise British Muslims as essential to its base. They have been politicised by western bloodbaths in mostly Muslim lands such as Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and Palestine
Roughly translated- we can get some easy votes from Muslims by spouting are usual anti-West broadbrush bollocks. Lucky it's all going well in Afghanistan these days, with the West having got out.
But some tensions cannot be wished away, including the tension within such a coalition between socially conservative and progressive values on issues such as trans rights. However, the two most prominent British Muslim politicians – the Labour London mayor, Sadiq Khan, and the former Scottish first minister Humza Yousaf – have been steadfast pro-LGBTQ allies, unlike most Christian Tory MPs.
Roughly translated- actually when you talk to Muslims lots of them sound not unlike Steve Baker supporters (as indeed a lot in High Wycombe were, because whatever his other faults, Baker isn't a racist and got off his arse to engage with Muslim constituents).

"We can't wish this away" he says before promptly wishing it away by mentioning Sadiq Khan and Hamza Yousuf.
Authoritarianism is hardening at home: witness the mass arrest of peaceful anti-genocide activists under Labour’s anti-terror laws
That's one way of putting it.
Starmer’s refusal to address the economic roots of despair
Oi, Starmer, pull Owen's magic lever. Just raise spending a lot (more) and raise wages all across the economy. It's criminal that he hasn't managed this after one budget.
Left movements have arisen across the west in the past few years for structural reasons: an economic order that delivers falling living standards, rising insecurity and a collapsing public realm, fused with a murderous, catastrophic foreign policy
Left movements, great. Any actual left governments? Could there be a reason for that?

Any catastrophic foreign policy with Jez, at all? Owen occasionally expresses support for Ukraine, but evidently that comes a long way behind sticking it to Starmer.