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Yes . A majority of 112 voted against the referral to standards and privileges stunt.

Get. It. Right. Up. Ye.

Thanks, it's all up in the air at the moment, but it is stressing me out. My worst fear is that I end up where I was 10 years ago, with no job.

Sorry to read that TWA, I remember going through the very same anguish some thirty years ago.

Here's wishing you good fortune.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2026 9:16 pm Oh Christ. Sorry to hear this.

Yeah, we received the news yesterday.

Any surprises here?


Full results: https://votes.parliament.uk/votes/commons/division/2347

I hope the whips have got their pictures on the dartboard.

Best of luck TWA. I've been there and I hope everything works out for you.

Malcolm Armsteen wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2026 9:34 pm According to The Guardian Starmer has seen off a 'major rebellion'.

15 Labour MPs voted against the whip...

15 out of 403...

According to the BBC News last night, he "swerved" defeat.

I learn today that the UAE has left OPEC, from an FT podcast (Unhedged with proper reporter Katie Martin). But hey Madelson, Starmer that's the only story the media big beasts need to tackle.

I interacted with Katie Martin on one of my brief Bluesky forays. She was very informative and nice. Like Bluesky used to be.

“Questions that won’t go away”, per The Guardian. They got that right.

Perhaps they could do “questions that we never ask” as well. Questions like How many times have The Greens spent the Wealth Tax money? I see that it’s paying for energy subsidies as well now.

Okay, I'm getting bored with Burnham and the Manc Mafia now.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgpjygx409o

Kudos to this fellow for saying "not me".

The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2026 9:07 pm

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2026 11:29 am The fall is good. Or was until Trump attacked Iran.

The point I was making is that business has had quite a lot of costs to absorb, from the minimum wage, tax and won't like the new working rights coming in next year. It would be good if it had been managing to do that without much effect on employment.

Thanks, my workplace has offered voluntary redundancy to my team and others. I just have to hope enough people take it or else I could be out of a job and I don't want to go back to the job centre again.

Hope all works out ok for you

Frances Ryan is criticizing the Government/ King for not mentioningEpstein victims in the speech to Congress. Politico had said he might, but did anyone else?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... h-congress

Mentioning Ukraine, NATO, the US tradition of checks and balances, and climate change wasn't bad going, you'd think. Democrats seemed to like the speech precisely because it did call Trump out on important things. And yeah, it might make no difference to Trump. But what's the alternative? The King turns up in an "I'm With Stupid" T-shirt, while Putin phones Trump up and tells him he's brilliant?

I'm not just having a pop at the left here, because Ed Davey is as bad as anyone for it. Is there not a cost to this "calling out"? If there is, then it seems these people are very happy for other people to pay it.

Youngian wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2026 7:46 am I learn today that the UAE has left OPEC, from an FT podcast (Unhedged with proper reporter Katie Martin). But hey Madelson, Starmer that's the only story the media big beasts need to tackle.

I heard it on the BBC last night and it was on LBC's bulletins this morning, dunno if they count as "big beasts" or not.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj4pxwlr52yo

Edit: A quick Google search tells me that Sky, Reuters, The Guardian and others also covered it yesterday.
https://www.google.com/search?q=uae+lea ... s-wiz-serp

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2026 2:08 pm Frances Ryan is criticizing the Government/ King for not mentioningEpstein victims in the speech to Congress. Politico had said he might, but did anyone else?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... h-congress

Mentioning Ukraine, NATO, the US tradition of checks and balances, and climate change wasn't bad going, you'd think. Democrats seemed to like the speech precisely because it did call Trump out on important things. And yeah, it might make no difference to Trump. But what's the alternative? The King turns up in an "I'm With Stupid" T-shirt, while Putin phones Trump up and tells him he's brilliant?

I'm not just having a pop at the left here, because Ed Davey is as bad as anyone for it. Is there not a cost to this "calling out"? If there is, then it seems these people are very happy for other people to pay it.

I think Charles did very well in what could have been a major situation, he touched the key points, what would mentioning Epstein do? Some Americans don't seem to accept Trump was in them.

It all sounds very sensible but it'll still be not enough for some and too much for others.

The trouble with building social homes is that the Tories just sell them. So you’re spending money to pay for their election bribes. In Wales and Scotland, that doesn’t apply.

This would seem to be remarkably good value, if true, even if it's framed in such a way as to make Twitter angry. If there's a deal, there's a deal. If there isn't, there isn't, and "concede in principle" is meaningless.

This is unlikely to bring the equivalent of full membership. But should help. And I think chucking it away is unlikely to be popular in the next election.