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Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2026 10:34 pm
by Bones McCoy
The spirit of lying and laundering massive political donations.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2026 8:45 am
by Youngian
There’s a sort of nouveau champagne socialism to it all as they wilfully drive up the cost of employing humans to the private sector.

Is there anything there that makes sense? Maybe AI will help civil servants work from home or move to a four day week.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2026 7:31 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I see she went to Cambridge. Without being starry eyed about standards there, I nonetheless confidently assert that her tutor demanded higher standards of logic and communication than this.

Here's her extensive private sector experience. (Dockerill is her maiden name)
After university, Dockerill was a researcher in the parliamentary office of Mark Field, Conservative MP for Cities of London and Westminster. She became his chief of staff and co-authored two of his books Between the Crashes and The Best of Times. Dockerill has also worked as his ghostwriter.[9] Whilst Dockerill was Field's parliamentary aide she was photographed in November 2016 carrying confidential notes on a Brexit-related meeting in Downing Street which indicated that the UK would not stay in the single market, and would not seek a transitional deal with the EU.
Great work there, Julia. "Chief of Staff" to Mark Field. Move over, Robert McNamara.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2026 10:51 pm
by Abernathy
Wasn’t Mark Field the one that was knobbing Liz Truss ?

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2026 8:52 pm
by davidjay
Abernathy wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2026 10:51 pm Wasn’t Mark Field the one that was knobbing Liz Truss ?
Some posts should carry a health warning.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2026 9:35 pm
by kreuzberger
Wasn't she canoodling with Kwazi?

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2026 9:59 pm
by Samanfur
Yes. As was Amber Rudd.

But Mark Field had an extra-marital affair with her for about 18 months.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2026 8:44 pm
by davidjay
Please, enough.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2026 9:23 pm
by Youngian
Did this MP sex take place in working hours? Hannah Spencer is on the case.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2026 9:27 pm
by soulboy
Wait until she hears about Damien Green's laptop.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2026 9:05 am
by Boiler
Youngian wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2026 9:23 pm Did this MP sex take place in working hours? Hannah Spencer is on the case.
She really does take self-righteousness to a new level.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2026 3:38 pm
by mattomac
Imagine Tractor porn was still in the House of Commons?

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Fri May 01, 2026 12:05 am
by mattomac
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politic ... 80608.html

The statement didn’t even make sense, a Tory council candidate suspended after saying “Hitler was right” and then saying I have no issue with Jewish people.

Is it really hard to criticise the genocidal actions of Netanyahu and his supporters while also realising that he speaks for about only half of Israel let alone world Jewish in general.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2026 9:41 am
by Tubby Isaacs
FFS. As Pawel says, these are examples of state failure that have lots in common with other state failures where race was irrelevant. It's not like everything went brilliantly with Baby P, is it?

"Islamophobia definition". These people are appalling.


Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2026 12:55 pm
by RedSparrows
It's OK, we'll just ask LLMs to decide, cos they're magically neutral, etc.

Morons or cynics, take your pick.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2026 3:11 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
One for Farage and Coutihno, and Matthew Syed, from his own paper. Paywalled obviously, but the headline tells you the important point.
Almost all mentally ill killers known to health services and police
Investigation illustrates how the case of Valdo Calocane, 34, a paranoid schizophrenic, is part of a systemic pattern rather than being an isolated attack
The striking number is 570 killings in 30 years. Those are failings of mental health services, police. Now, I'm not saying it's easy to stop these happening or that all or most of them would be characterized in terms of the killer being someone everyone would agree should have been in a secure unit. But clearly, there is indeed another way to look at this rather than "DEI" killing.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2026 3:29 pm
by RedSparrows
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2026 3:11 pm One for Farage and Coutihno, and Matthew Syed, from his own paper. Paywalled obviously, but the headline tells you the important point.
Almost all mentally ill killers known to health services and police
Investigation illustrates how the case of Valdo Calocane, 34, a paranoid schizophrenic, is part of a systemic pattern rather than being an isolated attack
The striking number is 570 killings in 30 years. Those are failings of mental health services, police. Now, I'm not saying it's easy to stop these happening or that all or most of them would be characterized in terms of the killer being someone everyone would agree should have been in a secure unit. But clearly, there is indeed another way to look at this rather than "DEI" killing.
Well, quite.

It's pretty remarkable, looked at objectively.

A man who kills another, brutally and likely because he's got some grim problem up top.
Police arrive, cock up by doing things unprofessionally

The entire right wing response? 'The white kid dies because cops trained to think about racism'. Note how the actual act is immaterial - it's the narrative use that can be made of it to roll this into some absolutely reductive and fantasist story against... needing to think about things for a second.

Ignoring:
1) the killer
2) the killer's condition and motivations
3) the fact the poor victim was doomed irrespective
4) any qualms about exploiting a situation for political ends

and they STILL pretend to have 'decency' and 'common sense' behind them?!

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2026 6:03 pm
by Abernathy
In all the bollocks about so-called “two tier policing” being alleged by the Tories (who are basically folowing Farage’s lead on this), not once have I heard any media person interviewing a Tory or Reform politician who trots out the meaningless platitude that “everybody must be treated equally before the law” challenge this by pointing out that taking into account people’s ethnicity, religious sensibilities, or whatever in carrying out a policing role does not mean that people are not being treated equally before the law. That it is being portrayed as such is a pernicious lie, propagated by Farage in the service of his political ends, deliberately so in order to foster and promote yet another sense of grievance among the hard-of-thinking and the already racist. It is, of course, a direct import from the USA, specifically the MAGA “Project 25” targeting of the principle of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI). It needs to be resisted, and defeated.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2026 6:09 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
We've seen Farage say he wouldn't want Romanians moving in next to him. He's supposed to be an authority on treating everybody equally?

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2026 7:09 pm
by Boiler
Project 2025 is a Heritage Foundation thing. Nothing (AFAIK) to do with MAGA.