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Re: Reform Party
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:07 pm
by Admirable Chrichton
Around 2010, 2011 - about the time of his plane crash - Farage advocated very liberal policies towards drugs prohibition (Virtually legalising all drugs). I think he'd disown them if challenged on it (In our dreams!! In the media Farage gets more free passes than a man who has won a free pass for life competition.)I remember him talking about it on Jeremy Vine and he was pretty nuanced in his arguments. I can't see some of the red wall - and a lot of the Reform reactionaries, taking kindly to such an approach on drugs.
Re: Reform Party
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:15 pm
by Watchman
Youngian wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 12:25 pm
Remember Farage the liberal wanting to be more generous in accepting asylum seekers as a bonus for ending free movement? Probably not, he's very capable of being a chameleon to a public with very short political memories. Of course he knows he's not going to be PM in 2029 but he can see opposition leader with the largest popular vote that deprives the Tories of power, within his grasp. Farage's problem is that any move to widen his appeal will prompt a challenge from a dickhead like Habib or Lowe that he's selling out. That's happening already as Musk stirs the shit and Nigel disses Tommeh. So there's reason to be optimistic the Reform will descend into farce this year.
And LOTO is what he wants, to spend all his time heckling from the sidelines without any demands to provide an alternative policy. This talk of him being PM is simply Musk talk, egged on by Trump and Bannon, all they want is a puppet, but once in No10 the Frogman would not be able to hide, and I think this is slowly sinking in with the yanks.
Re: Reform Party
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:24 pm
by Youngian
Admirable Chrichton wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:07 pm
Around 2010, 2011 - about the time of his plane crash - Farage advocated very liberal policies towards drugs prohibition (Virtually legalising all drugs). I think he'd disown them if challenged on it (In our dreams!! In the media Farage gets more free passes than a man who has won a free pass for life competition.)I remember him talking about it on Jeremy Vine and he was pretty nuanced in his arguments. I can't see some of the red wall - and a lot of the Reform reactionaries, taking kindly to such an approach on drugs.
He was funtime Nigel railing against the joyless state and Labour busy bodies lecturing us not to drink and smoke. But his libertarianism has been taking a backseat lately, voted against assisted dying and been trying to push anti abortion measures onto the political agenda. Obviously to indulge his American interests.
Re: Reform Party
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:45 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Admirable Chrichton wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:07 pm
Around 2010, 2011 - about the time of his plane crash - Farage advocated very liberal policies towards drugs prohibition (Virtually legalising all drugs). I think he'd disown them if challenged on it (In our dreams!! In the media Farage gets more free passes than a man who has won a free pass for life competition.)I remember him talking about it on Jeremy Vine and he was pretty nuanced in his arguments. I can't see some of the red wall - and a lot of the Reform reactionaries, taking kindly to such an approach on drugs.
I didn't know he'd advocated drug liberalization. That actually might be more popular with Reform voters than we might think. Certainly the "Essex Libertarian" wing, if not the pensioner wing.
Re: Reform Party
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:43 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Reform's community organizing
https://www.politicshome.com/news/artic ... food-banks
Reform UK is building its grassroots presence in Wales, where members are involved in community work including volunteering for local food banks, PoliticsHome has learnt.
The activity on the ground has made some Labour members nervous, amid fears that their party could be voted out of the Cardiff administration for the first time at the next Senedd elections in 2026.
“It’s like Brexit all over again, isn’t it? Kicking back against the system,” one Welsh Labour MP said.
“The Reform thing is real. We need to seriously, seriously, wake up to it.”
They predicted that in areas like Llanelli, south Wales, where Reform came just 1,500 votes behind Labour in July, “we are absolutely doomed”.
Re: Reform Party
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:49 pm
by Andy McDandy
just like the BNP and Britain First used to.
Re: Reform Party
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:29 pm
by Youngian
Voting Plaid makes sense if you want to kick back at the system but Reform? Giving another chance to the turds that bought you Brexit that delivered nothing.
A Barn Cymru poll carried out by YouGov for ITV Wales and Cardiff University's Wales Governance Centre in November showed Plaid Cymru in the lead and Welsh Labour tying with Reform UK.
Re: Reform Party
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:37 pm
by mattomac
Thing is it’s likely to be a grand coalition anyhow, the increase in members will mean Labour won’t have a majority or close to one.
Assume a Plaid\Labour maybe Lib Dem’s and Greens.
Re: Reform Party
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:23 pm
by Bones McCoy
I always wondered why the NF Yobbos leaflets were printed in Wales.
Then same for the BNP etc etc.
Was Fash running on a shoelace back in the '70s?
Did three of four organisations share the same photocopier in a sheep pen in Powys?
Re: Reform Party
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 8:13 pm
by The Weeping Angel
I've seen various pundits say Reform will move to the left economically to outflank Labour and the Tories. Meanwhile here's Rupert Lowe arguing against a football regulator
Under Lowe's ownership Southampton ended up in administration.
Re: Reform Party
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:04 pm
by satnav
I'm pretty sure that there are currently 4 premier league clubs being investigated for breaching premier league spending rules. With the current system of self regulation cases go on for years because the richer club can spend a fortune on top lawyers to drag these cases out for years.
Re: Reform Party
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:06 pm
by Bones McCoy
Why would Rupert back the option most favourable to money launderers?
Re: Reform Party
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:19 pm
by Andy McDandy
What is the FA if not a state football regulator?
Re: Reform Party
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:37 pm
by satnav
In response to the White paper the FA said.
The FA is the regulator of the game in England. We are a robust regulator in areas of the game where we have primary responsibility- for example in anti-doping or betting. However, the primary responsibility for financial regulation lies with our sanctioned leagues, and not with The FA.
So they cover many areas but not all areas of football.
Re: Reform Party
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:03 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
The 3 Premier League clubs who were under investigation for PSR breaches have all been cleared. It's just Man City now with the big case which is about more fundamental accounting. The fact they've just given their most highly paid player a 9 year contract and a pay rise suggests they're not very bothered.
Re: Reform Party
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:15 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 8:13 pm
I've seen various pundits say Reform will move to the left economically to outflank Labour and the Tories. Meanwhile here's Rupert Lowe arguing against a football regulator
Under Lowe's ownership Southampton ended up in administration.
Rupes did an interview with The Athletic a while ago, where he expressed some highly offensive views.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/117955 ... loodstock/
“If you studied football in France, you’d tend to find that a lot of the best French players come from the Camargue. It’s a region of France, you’ve got very tough, mentally strong people, physically strong people. It’s quite similar here.
“In China, you tend to find the better players, who are bigger and stronger from up north, rather than the smaller people from down south. So again, if you want to use an analogy, any form of bloodstock, you tend to find genetically better pools of bloodstock in certain places to other places.”
“Bloodstock” is a term from breeding race horses, meaning the original ancestors of a bloodline. We get back to this later.
“The Camargue produces very, very good players.”
But don’t France’s best players come from the multicultural Paris suburbs, like Paul Pogba?
“Pogba’s originally not from France, is he? He would be from Africa.”
Pogba, the Manchester United midfielder and France’s World Cup-winning star was born in Lagny-sur-Marne — an eastern suburb of Paris.
England's best bloodstock is in Yorkshire and the NE, apparently.
Re: Reform Party
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:16 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
As a bonus in that interview he makes the case for No Deal Brexit, which is essentially "break it all, then put it back together as suits both sides".
Re: Reform Party
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:28 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
The man's a thick cunt.
Re: Reform Party
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 7:15 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:15 pm
The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 8:13 pm
I've seen various pundits say Reform will move to the left economically to outflank Labour and the Tories. Meanwhile here's Rupert Lowe arguing against a football regulator
Under Lowe's ownership Southampton ended up in administration.
Rupes did an interview with The Athletic a while ago, where he expressed some highly offensive views.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/117955 ... loodstock/
“If you studied football in France, you’d tend to find that a lot of the best French players come from the Camargue. It’s a region of France, you’ve got very tough, mentally strong people, physically strong people. It’s quite similar here.
“In China, you tend to find the better players, who are bigger and stronger from up north, rather than the smaller people from down south. So again, if you want to use an analogy, any form of bloodstock, you tend to find genetically better pools of bloodstock in certain places to other places.”
“Bloodstock” is a term from breeding race horses, meaning the original ancestors of a bloodline. We get back to this later.
“The Camargue produces very, very good players.”
But don’t France’s best players come from the multicultural Paris suburbs, like Paul Pogba?
“Pogba’s originally not from France, is he? He would be from Africa.”
Pogba, the Manchester United midfielder and France’s World Cup-winning star was born in Lagny-sur-Marne — an eastern suburb of Paris.
England's best bloodstock is in Yorkshire and the NE, apparently.
I'm sure his constituents don't mind being told their bloodstock isn't as good as oop north.
Re: Reform Party
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 10:38 pm
by davidjay
Rupert Lowe, a football club chairman so popular his supporters would sing about executing him.