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SNP weakening?

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:55 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Am I noticing a few more missteps?

Here an SNP candidate hits on something not even the Kippers have thought of.



Sturgeon too has been less sure footed than normal on borders too. Reduced to the Bozo "nobody in the SNP wants a hard border" formulation.

They'll only win by about 50 seats. You heard it here first.

Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:21 pm
by Boiler
I mean, they have seen what's happened in Ireland, haven't they? Only this time the border's now on the mainland.

Or is it more dogmatic zealotry again?

Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:46 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
They understand the problem very well, just as they understood Brexit.

And well might they think "There's a cost, but you know what? We're still not staying with Bozo, because it's about values as well as cash".

Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:52 pm
by Youngian
I doubt Serbia carried much weight with Slovenes and Croats that open borders with Europe would create one with its oh so important big neighbour. Hard borders in the British Isles will become an English choice not a Scottish and Irish one who don’t want them with England. And for what? Increased food poisoning, tariff free perks for dodgy sugar cane importers and nonsense about wage depressing Polish plumbers.

Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:30 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Maybe, but the SNP are noticeably nervous on it.

Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:54 pm
by Arrowhead
I predict anything but a "weak" set of SNP results once the next round of Scottish election results are in, just over a week from now. The SNP may have had an awkward year so far, but when faced with remaining aligned to Bozo Boris's Brexit Britain (to coin a phrase from the pre-combusted forum), I'm pretty confident Scottish voters will produce an outright majority for Sturgeon, and very possibly by a bigger margin than in 2011.

At least Scottish Labour have rid themselves of the terminally anonymous Richard Leonard, which is a step in the right direction.

Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:02 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I meant weakening compared to where they were. But probaby Bozo's taken the heat off them a bit.

In the longer term, this isn't encouraging for them. Yes voting is heavily correlated with ignorance about Scottish finances.


Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:09 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Or, as some of us would put it, a bunch of people with no power or influence, have written a letter to a newspaper.



This bit's rather interesting.
generous terms should be offered to support Scotland’s budget in the challenging months of the transition before rejoining the EU.
I'm generally sceptical about vetoes in the EU, but "Hey Spain, do you want to encourage Catalonia, and pay a richer country for that privilege?" doesn't sound like a winner.

Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:28 pm
by Youngian
a bunch of people with no power or influence, have written a letter to a newspaper.
Brian Eno what does ‘e know? (TM Sleaford Mods).

Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:35 pm
by Bones McCoy
I don't know, but I've been told ...

That every time Boris Johnson appears on the news, the SNP gain a few more votes.
Johnson has been on the news a lot recently.

As for weakening or not, this is an issue of entrenched attitudes.
Few people will be leaving their trenches to vote for the other side.
Swings are based on how many feel the urge to turn out and vote (which side can get their support out).

Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:51 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Majority but not as good as it looked like it might be.


Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:44 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
These look plausible numbers. Those Green votes aren't SNP supporters gaming the system, oh no. Then again they'd have about 200 seats under FPTP, so I shouldn't be too harsh.


Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 7:59 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
The SNP, not weakening.


Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 9:05 pm
by Bones McCoy
Well that escalated quickly.

Douglas Ross of the Tories has been playing a (whatever the opposite of a blinder is).

The poor man is cursed with one of those angry toddler faces that never quite reached adulthood.
We can hardly blame him for that.
But he brings a personality and debating style to match, which cements the impression.

Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 9:33 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
There's a reason why they leaned so heavily on Ruth Davidson before.

Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 6:38 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I see a man got involved in Scottish Elections, a man so bad, so famed for dishonesty, that the online Nats are ranting.

The man they call Gordon Brown. Gordo famously promised loads of devolution then won the 2015 election and blocked it. The bastard.

Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 6:44 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
On the other hand, this heroic truthteller has shown up.


Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Thu May 06, 2021 9:31 pm
by Bones McCoy
A bit of excitement in Glasgow's South Side as Britain First's Jayda Franzen accosted Nicola Sturgeon in the street.

There's video on Twitter, with pretty poor sound.
My take-away is that at least one big party is willing to call them out as Fascists.

Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Thu May 06, 2021 10:53 pm
by Samanfur
Video and quotes here.

Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 7:34 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
The SNP haven't weakened. You didn't hear it here first.