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Farage is claiming it was a stitch-up. Because of course, there is no way the 7-times failure to be elected to parliament wouldn’t be popular enough to win.

davidjay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 10:46 pm

satnav wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 10:44 pm Oh dear, after all the money spent on adverts and lots of multiple voting Farage only managed to come turd.

And I'm sure it's just a coincidence that he was in it right up until the final night, therefore guaranteeing maximum publicity for ITV, then came last when they didn't need to, er, manipulate the voting anymore.

These "reality" shows share a common voting system whose early stages are open to rigging.
There are the early eliminations and the final.
Actually there are 2 variants:

In the most easily rigged versions "The Judges" present two victims.
The public vote between BarAbbas and the Nazarene.
If the Judges believe your long term presence is in the show's favour, you won't be in those votes, no matter how bad your singing and dancing.

In the others, it's "Vote to save", where a small following goes a long way.
You don't need to outrun the velociraptor, you need to outrun the slowest guy.
Farage's cult (sp) following keeps him safe from early eliminations.

Then there's the final, a straight up FPTP shoot out.
Much as I dislike FPTP in political contexts, we do get to see the true popularity of Hancock / Farage.
And it's inevitably last / worst / lowest placing.

Crabcakes wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:44 am Farage is claiming it was a stitch-up. Because of course, there is no way the 7-times failure to be elected to parliament wouldn’t be popular enough to win.

Yeah, but can he summon a vengeful military cosplayer mob to besiege ITV headquarters.

Ooo you’re hard. Apparently Mr Lygo was caught making a wanker sign with his hand at some do when Farage’s name was mentioned. Adding fuel to the gammon stitch up conspiracy.

Wasting no time to shit stir. This is the country he campaigned for and got.

If Fa**ge genuinely believes that he was cheated out of being crowned "King of the jungle" by a rigged ITV poll, his first port of call should be a formal complaint to Ofcom. After the shenanigans of the mid-'00 involving ITV and their on-air viewer competitions, they are sure to be sensitive to any accusations of them taking viewers money whilst "rigging" a poll.

And as for the "come get me if you dare" bravado, at some point Fa**ge will mess with the wrong person/company and will be left in a sorry state. The likes of ITV will know that if they take Fa**ge on for libel, it'll be telling anyone involved within themselves to zip it shut completely within 160ft of any potential journalist.

Bones McCoy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:46 am

In the most easily rigged versions "The Judges" present two victims.
The public vote between BarAbbas and the Nazarene.
If the Judges believe your long term presence is in the show's favour, you won't be in those votes, no matter how bad your singing and dancing.

In Strictly, the judges are in control right up until the final. The judges will have their 3 or 4 favourites that they think benefits the dancing aspect of the show and it's very unlikely that two of those will be in the dance-off to stay. Those two arrive there as a combination of judge scores and viewer votes so there's even an element of production control in that aspect, meaning a popular with the public but shit at dancing type will eventually find themselves in that two, long enough to keep viewers but kept away from the final so as to retain an element of authenticity to the dance element of the show.

Not entirely. There have been contestants in recent years who have bucked those trends. For example, last year Matt Goss was technically very good, but his personality was abrasive and arrogant, and he was sent to the dance-offs regularly until he lost. That was the public just not voting for him.

The lineup matters - there's a run through before the show and the running order is drawn up (and this gives the judges an idea of what they'll be seeing, so they can start making notes and preparing spontaneous quips). Opener and closer will always be strong acts, and closer benefits from being fresh in the memory. Third couple will generally be the weakest, as that's the round where Craig opens the commentary.

Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 11:34 am Not entirely. There have been contestants in recent years who have bucked those trends. For example, last year Matt Goss was technically very good, but his personality was abrasive and arrogant, and he was sent to the dance-offs regularly until he lost. That was the public just not voting for him.

The lineup matters - there's a run through before the show and the running order is drawn up (and this gives the judges an idea of what they'll be seeing, so they can start making notes and preparing spontaneous quips). Opener and closer will always be strong acts, and closer benefits from being fresh in the memory. Third couple will generally be the weakest, as that's the round where Craig opens the commentary.

Third place is also to be avoided (source #3 son) for army sections dashing across a gap.

In my line of work it was the conference presenting slot following lunchtime.

Or lighting cigarettes from a single match.

Notice, aim, fire...

Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 11:34 am Not entirely. There have been contestants in recent years who have bucked those trends. For example, last year Matt Goss was technically very good, but his personality was abrasive and arrogant, and he was sent to the dance-offs regularly until he lost. That was the public just not voting for him.

The lineup matters - there's a run through before the show and the running order is drawn up (and this gives the judges an idea of what they'll be seeing, so they can start making notes and preparing spontaneous quips). Opener and closer will always be strong acts, and closer benefits from being fresh in the memory. Third couple will generally be the weakest, as that's the round where Craig opens the commentary.

I had noticed the first and last dance being strong, but not the 3rd dance being weak, I'll look out for that next year.
Possibly Goss, as well as getting in the dance-off, the producers probably got bad feedback from the professional he was working with.

Maybe Matt Goss got treated badly because they thought that as a singer he danced already and so should be better.

Youngian wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 12:18 pm Wasting no time to shit stir. This is the country he campaigned for and got.

It isn’t though.

You lost, get over it.

Farage was NOT binned off by Coutts foe being a racist cunt. Though, obviously he could and should have been,

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... GchZ-EKHHI



No evidence Coutts closed accounts due to political views, report says

I'm sure the left-wing #scummedia will report that far and wide.

From The Guardian.......................no, I've checked, its not 1st April


Meanwhile, Nigel Farage has urged a potential incoming Labour government to make him ambassador to the US in the “national interest”.
He says he is “half-joking” but also said he would be “ideal” for the role in a future Keir Starmer government.

He told The Sun:

Labour must think very, very hard in the national interest about what they are going to do with an incoming Trump administration. And right at the moment, I think they are ignoring it.

You’ve got to have someone who can actually walk into the Oval Office and talk face to face with an incoming President Trump.

So, half jokingly I could say me, but I can’t see them ever appointing me.

But, I would be ideal for it. I would be, I am being serious, I would be. But they need to think very hard.

Ambassadors normally speak to the Secretary of State. OK, in the event of Trump winning, whoever that is will just be a cut out doing little more than relaying messages. But crucially an ambassador has to stay on script (and/or know precisely how much they can deviate from it in a pinch). Fargle?

Somebody tell Manfrog he already is a British ambassador. At least, an ambassador for British thick, racist, fascist scum, and has been for fucking years.

I think that Keir Starmer should seriously consider Farage's proposition for a reasonable time period.

About 3 seconds should do it.