[Crabcakes]

Blackpool wasn’t ever popular because it was great - it was popular because it was one of the only options people could afford that was marginally better than where they lived and worked. No one who had a choice would want a swim in the cold, Atlantic-adjacent Irish Sea, then stagger out of the nut brown water onto a coarse beach to enjoy temperatures that if you’re lucky might hit 22 degrees. Then on to an evening of overpriced fish and chips, shit beer and miserable B&B owners who lock you out at 9pm.

But obviously it was never the advent of cheap flights to places with warm, crystal clear waters, incredibly cheap, great food and wine, and nice hotels with full board deals. No, it was definitely some mysterious, nebulous swarthy-looking types scaring everyone off.

[Andy McDandy]

A guy I know used to be a door security operative. Did all the big clubs in the north west - Liverpool, Manchester, Chester, Preston, Lancaster, Morecambe. Actually from Shelta (Irish traveller) background, as it happens.

He would not work Blackpool, nor would many other experienced door staff. As he put it, in other towns and cities, you need to know about first aid, defusing arguments, watching out for drink spiking, and all sorts of things. To work the doors in Blackpool, you need to know how to knock someone out with a fire extinguisher.

[Abernathy]

He would not work Blackpool, nor would many other experienced door staff. As he put it, in other towns and cities, you need to know about first aid, defusing arguments, watching out for drink spiking, and all sorts of things. To work the doors in Blackpool, you need to know how to knock someone out with a fire extinguisher.

Presumably before the advent of SIA licensing ?

[Andy McDandy]

Before and after. It's a rough town.

[Tubby Isaacs]

For the record, "gypsy" is increasingly regarded as an ethnic slur, seen as erasing individual cultures, and with a lot of harmful stereotypes attached.

Romany/Romani tend to prefer to be addressed as such, as do Irish travellers.

The likes of 30p Lee don't care about that angle, but it's one reason why there's been a gradual change in language.

Apologies. I went from using it in a quote to using it myself. I'll only usse "traveller" in future.

[Samanfur]

No offence meant or taken. It was just something I felt was worth mentioning.

Even the organisation I work for still uses the term alongside Roma and traveller, and I wonder how long that'll last.

[Tubby Isaacs]

And you were right.

[Youngian]

This week, Lee has the hump with a local councillor who can’t be arsed to respond.

[kreuzberger]

Woke punctuation is for rocket-eating poofs.

[Youngian]

Lee’s just returned from fake Britain populated by plasticine people
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/sc5ktx ... tid=WC7FNe

[kreuzberger]

Hardly Nuremberg, is it?

Poor show.

[Bones McCoy]

What happens in the 'Dam stays in the 'Dam.