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Oboogie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:52 pm Presumably Anderson thinks he has a better chance of retaining his seat as a Reform candidate than a Tory. Giving the Tories current polling, he may even be correct.
What does the panel think?

Hard to know wherever Anderson thinks being part of Reform is more likely to see him retain is seat as opposed to having to swallow his pride and take the Tory whip again if he felt he had a better chance as a Conservative candidate. I would have thought the local strength of the Ashfield Independents would have been of interest given their GE 2019 performance, but with some legal issues facing Zadrozny (whom came a respectable second in the 2019 GE in Ashfield) & others, looking at their Wiki page, makes this one hard to know unless your feet was firmly on local ground IMO. The only thing I do suspect that will happen at best is that Anderson becomes another Mark Reckless.

My guess is that standing as a Conservative (he won't resign his seat - projects an image of him as cowardly, and I figure he was stung after the 'sniggling' jibes) would see him lose his seat. Humiliation on election night, the new Portillo, etc. But moving to Reform means a few things:

1. No surprise if he loses, it's a new party, didn't expect an upheaval.
2. Well, if only the Tories had been a bit further to the right, they'd have kept me/not lost votes to Reform.
3. Goes to show what the people really want, only they're too afraid of the wokes to say.
4. Can spend the next few weeks/months being really inflammatory and awful, making him stand out among the mass of Tories who'll be looking for a nice RW media/lecture circuit job soon.

Spoonman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:48 pm

Oboogie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:52 pm Presumably Anderson thinks he has a better chance of retaining his seat as a Reform candidate than a Tory. Giving the Tories current polling, he may even be correct.
What does the panel think?

Hard to know wherever Anderson thinks being part of Reform is more likely to see him retain is seat as opposed to having to swallow his pride and take the Tory whip again if he felt he had a better chance as a Conservative candidate. I would have thought the local strength of the Ashfield Independents would have been of interest given their GE 2019 performance, but with some legal issues facing Zadrozny (whom came a respectable second in the 2019 GE in Ashfield) & others, looking at their Wiki page, makes this one hard to know unless your feet was firmly on local ground IMO. The only thing I do suspect that will happen at best is that Anderson becomes another Mark Reckless.

Ashfield was a very Brexity place in 2016.

My unscientific observation of Brexit voters is that they now seem to fall into two camps:
* those who now realise they were lied to and that Brexit was always going to fail
* those who think Brexit has failed because the Tories are sell-outs and May, Johnson and Sunak are non-believers and Socialist Remoaners.
I don't know those two camps' numbers in Ashfield, if the later group are dominant, the Racist Lee Cunt may be in with a shout. I doubt the Racist Lee Cunt knows much more than I do about that.
What he does gain from this move is celebrity and a place in the history books as Reform UK's first (and hopefully only ever) MP, that's got to be worth some media invites (cash).

Guaranteed a place on Question Time?

So who's going to follow Anderson across?

Mark Jenkinson was my first thought, but apparently he's bagged himself a much safer seat (Penrith and Solway). He might as well stay. He'll probably be Shadow Foreign Secretary or something (asssuming they lose) after the election.

Others suggested are Brendan Clarke-Smith, Tom Hunt, Nick Fletcher, Jonathan Gullis, Miriam Cates, Marco Longhi, Andrea Jenkins.

Whilst the Reform Party are over the moon about gaining their first MP , in reality their latest recruit is a bloke who has been kicked out of the Labour Party and the Conservative Party over allegations of racism. Anything he says are does between now and the election will be used by Labour and the Conservatives to attack the Reform Party.

Oboogie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:52 pm Presumably Anderson thinks he has a better chance of retaining his seat as a Reform candidate than a Tory. Giving the Tories current polling, he may even be correct.
What does the panel think?

I think hie chances of winning a Westminster seat are slim.

Reform membership opens all manner of alternative job opportunities: paid gobshite, citizen journalist, broadcaster, board member.

Bones McCoy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 2:44 pm

Oboogie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:52 pm Presumably Anderson thinks he has a better chance of retaining his seat as a Reform candidate than a Tory. Giving the Tories current polling, he may even be correct.
What does the panel think?

I think hie chances of winning a Westminster seat are slim.

Reform membership opens all manner of alternative job opportunities: paid gobshite, citizen journalist, broadcaster, board member.

Agreed, I doubt he'll win, but he might push the Tories into third place in Ashfield.

Just the thing you need with those gathering clouds - an open top bus

And get off the table, people eat of them you oafs.

It's the Wetherspoons Beer Garden putsch.

Or did I mean putz?

“Good evening Ashfield, let me hear you scream”

That's one scary pub. I'm with the guy with his head in his hands.

I like the bloke nearest the camera; “If I just focus on the table, the room WILL stop spinning”

What is the Toby Young lookalike behind him doing? Bit public for that?

BUMSEX.

If Tice reminds you of someone who swindles old ladies out of their savings, here’s one of his marks

Apparently Richard Tice doesn't like the fact that various media outlets keep referring to his party as 'Far Right Party'. This seems rather odd given that the party is constantly trying to outflank the Tories on cutting immigration, cutting public spending and cutting foreign aid. Surely being labelled far right is their unique selling point.

Youngian wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:43 pm here’s one of his marks

That's a very weird Abergavenny accent.

Abergavenny and Crickhowell - Cotswolds for people who can't afford the Cotswolds, as the local folks say.